Cartridge Price Hike Again !
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Richard59
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The talk in week (well my big ears picked up) was a 5% increase on a range of brands
Lukeypoodle
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10% on Hull too
Its a cosy cartel, they will all stick together
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We haven't received a new price list from Eley (Orston). It may be in the post to us, I'll let you know if one arrives.
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How much on Hull please and when?
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We haven't received a new price list yet, so I can't tell you how much. It'll happen at the end of January.
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Hull super fast still same price
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Supply and demand - marketing 101 for ..well.. about most things. 5% would be in line with inflation and increased energy costs for production so whilst its irksome those are things that are industry wide.
More people, especially ladies, seem to be joining our sport. This can only be goodness surely.
More people, especially ladies, seem to be joining our sport. This can only be goodness surely.
Two years ,are you sure ? Doesn't seem that long since the last hike
All through my long and varied working life, every single person in every single industry has wanted a pay rise every single year. That probably applies to those on here.
Many have also (at the same time) moaned when prices elsewhere have increased.
I’m not convinced there’s a secret cartridge cartel somewhere, meeting in dark dusty rooms, agreeing to all push up the prices unnecessarily. Just like there isn’t a hospitality industry deliberately screwing everyone over, knowing it’s the kiss of death. They are struggling, and genuinely trying to survive.
I’m convinced that shooting will not be banned in my lifetime, and I’m hoping I’ve got decades left yet.
Many have also (at the same time) moaned when prices elsewhere have increased.
I’m not convinced there’s a secret cartridge cartel somewhere, meeting in dark dusty rooms, agreeing to all push up the prices unnecessarily. Just like there isn’t a hospitality industry deliberately screwing everyone over, knowing it’s the kiss of death. They are struggling, and genuinely trying to survive.
I’m convinced that shooting will not be banned in my lifetime, and I’m hoping I’ve got decades left yet.
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Paul120
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Depends on whether the pay rises are expected due to inflation alone. Businesses push very, very hard too minimise pay increases with the recent austerity years and due to the power dynamics they have been very successful at keeping pay well below inflation. Also most good companies accept that to retain and generally keep people motivated, its beneficial to reward in line with the value that they bring add through experience and training etc.
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Everybody wants a pay rise but not everyone gets one. My experience is that employers use all sorts of excuses (such as the recent NI increase) to avoid paying one until you move jobs and find out the real salary you should have been paid. I would be interested to know if the cartridge manufacturers have given their staff pay rises but I’m sure we won't find out.
1000 cartridge at £180 in 2014 should be £244 assuming the Bank of England inflation calculator is correct yet the increase over that period is double that. There maybe reasons but if my use of the internet is correct, lead is cheaper.
In terms of a cartel, I'm sure they don't meet in dark rooms but they do put their prices up at the same time which suggests some coordination.
1000 cartridge at £180 in 2014 should be £244 assuming the Bank of England inflation calculator is correct yet the increase over that period is double that. There maybe reasons but if my use of the internet is correct, lead is cheaper.
In terms of a cartel, I'm sure they don't meet in dark rooms but they do put their prices up at the same time which suggests some coordination.
Yes, but my main point was that everyone everywhere always wants a pay increase. But nobody wants a cost increase.
It’s a bit like the guy I was talking to in the pub (true story). He moaned about his household fuel bills going up, about his food bills going up, about his petrol costs increasing, he moaned about the increases in his rates, mortgage, insurance, maintenance, etc etc. Then he looked at the menu and moaned “£14 for a burger, it used to be £12, what a rip off, bl@@dy thieves, I’m not paying that”.
Stupid and naive, but sadly not uncommon.
I’m sure that many employees in cartridge manufacturing have had pay rises over the years. There’s no reason to suspect they are any different to any other industries. Yes, employers try to restrict pay increases, but it’s a simple cost excercise. If costs increase, either prices increase or profits reduce; neither are desirable. In many industries the customers demand yearly price reductions, which makes it a double whammy.
There may be many reasons for generalised cost increases, but it doesn’t mean there is any collusion or co-ordination.
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"If costs increase, either prices increase or profits reduce; neither are desirable"
Desirable for the business no - not the customer - and if that's taken a step further an increase in profit is always good and thus it's a question of how far you can increase the price mindful of supply/demand. When we look at the price of cartridges the concern is that some of the recent increases do not correlate to cost increases at all.
Much depends in the example above on whether the 'stupid & naive' guy has had a commensurate pay rise to match the increases or whether he is in fact saying that, to him, the burger is now too expensive. The £14 might be the real price but he doesn't now want to pay it because he learnt during lockdown to make as good a burger at home.
Desirable for the business no - not the customer - and if that's taken a step further an increase in profit is always good and thus it's a question of how far you can increase the price mindful of supply/demand. When we look at the price of cartridges the concern is that some of the recent increases do not correlate to cost increases at all.
Much depends in the example above on whether the 'stupid & naive' guy has had a commensurate pay rise to match the increases or whether he is in fact saying that, to him, the burger is now too expensive. The £14 might be the real price but he doesn't now want to pay it because he learnt during lockdown to make as good a burger at home.
