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I have a relatively cheap pair of Howard Leight - Impact sport. <£40 They work very well, but no good in the summer - very sweaty. So I have been looking at a pair of in-ear but cant find anything shy of £479 - id like them to be electronic, my hearing isn't great, so its helpful not having...

Ah OK, I shot gun in shoulder.  Just took me a bit by surprise.. 

Oh, well perhaps if I ever come across one I'll give it a go, if you came away learning something it must be worth it.  Seeing the trace of the gun sounds amazing. I'm quite intrigued now... 

Don't get me wrong, I love my Rizzini. Struck luck with it, it's fits me really well considering. The 525 is a trusted one.  What ever you do, enjoy it. 

I understand that the recoil isn't factually more, but yes, the perceived recoil was a massive difference. I was shocked to 'feel' such a difference.

Agree with above, would rather go to Sporting Targets and throw £60 at clays. But then again if you want to try a new gun, and they don't have a tester - you got to do what's available...

Heya all.  So the other week I had my first go at a pattern plate.  I took 2 shots at 15m, 2 shots at 20, and another 2 at 25... Yes I know I should of used a new pattern plate at each distance, but funds are tight.. And paying for cardboard isn't cool when tonnes of it go in the bin at work...

Glad its working.. But might be worth having it looked at, incase your at the clay grounds next time it 'seizes'.

Now that's some recoil above... Funny thing, the other week, I was having my first go at a pattern plate... And I'm sure the gun had more recoil, than when I am shooting at clays.

The pictures are great! jwpzx9r

Crikey, if you can afford it, and the resale loss doesn't bother you, go for it. You will end up owning it anyway... And you wouldn't of bought other guns in place - costing you more in the long run. Wish I had the funds to buy the gun I wanted when I started - Browning ultra xs/pro...

If I am ever given the chance to go game shooting, I certainly shall.  But most these loads are too large for the clay ground.. 

Good day and welcome.

Welcome to the forum.

Welcome to the forum. Romans 7, stands out to me. PS where are you from?

Welcome to the forum. Lots of knowledgeable folk on here, I started shooting earlier this year.. And love it.

Ah I see. they'll be going on my shelf I think.. Thanks.

None of them are 20b...? but your not the first to say this... I post on FB and someone said the same thing .. Thanks for the concern though, appreciate it.

I wonder whether I should have posted my cartridge's post here instead of the general discussion page.....? here's a link just incase...

I may have to give the velocity a try, I'm on my second 1000 of the superfasts, cant say I have anything bad to say about them, they make a bang and most of the time break the clay - should I point the gun in the right place... Im not into comps, so probably wouldn't even notice any difference...