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My vote would be beretta391. But I haven't much experience with others. Apart from a friends a400 the a400 was fine apart from it had the kickoff system way to much movement under recoil for my liking. If your thinking about the kickoff system take it for a test drive first I hated it 

Ordered glasses from them tuck them about a week to process the oder. Once shipped had it in 2 days. But it was an Italian holiday when I ordered so that might have delayed it 

Euro skeet negative choke.......you guys think to much 

Shot a friends 692 didn't like it at all.........and iv shot berettas the last 20 years. Personally I'd hold out and buy a used DT10 

The pattern plate can often fill your mind with doubt......... if your happy shooting 28g white gold why shoot 24g better looking at it than for it 

Well done ips. I only do a bit of rough shooting, and it's all about the dog work couldn't care less if I never  fired a shot as long as the dog works well. 

Used to be pro ones but can get them locally any more. My preference now is f-blacks reason being shot a good round with them once 

I'd say it would suffice for long enough to see if you like the gun enough to go with a custom. If you do this man is a fraction of the cost of a custom stock in the UK and iv only ever heard great things about his work this HTML class. Value is https://patsluddsgun Link won't work search pat...

We all do that (well I do) head lifting and checking the lead can be the main causes you have to see the lead with out looking at it. Happens me when I'm been too carefull 

8lb 4oz that's nearly a full lb less than mine. I know a lot of people were not happy with them been so heavy but I honestly wouldn't have bought the gun if it wasn't a 9lb+ gun. Horses for courses. Best of luck with it 

It's won't be the chokes, fast distant crossers need at lot of lead and a smooth swing, take a fast 40 yard bird I'd be seeing 10 ft+ . If struggling with crossers start shooting one at 20yards and move back 5yards every time you break 4 in a row. You will be very surprised at how much in front...

Pick a good mid-priced shell that you can get hold of easily and stick with it for everything.

From that photo I don't see much wrong, some of the best shooters in the world mount very similar, when we start worrying about gun fit it can open a big can of worms 

I think make winser wanted the two white gold as a mental note to him self not to over lead them 

I'm thinking castellani or Randolph falcon 

Has anyone an opinion on castellani shooting glasses 

A good coach would be the quickest way to learn, they have the experience of teaching and know how to get there point across, and will have you shooting the type of targets needed to get there point across, I only wish I had the option of the standard of coaches available to UK shooters, as for...

Thanks for that, I'm sure pilla are very good but I'd never fork out that much on glasses, but then again I said I'd never spend that much on a gun, any other alternatives for reasonable money I should look at 

In the market for new shooting glasses, how do rate the Oakley m frames and what tint lenses would you guys recommend

 think it's the 1/4 cast off that's causing the problem. That is if it's the adjustable you have pushed over a 1/4 to achieve the cast, any adjustable iv shot set up that way would hurt my cheek after 50 or so shells, not so much cheek slap as just the ridge left by having the comb over so much,