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I’m not accusing you of selling sir purely that you’re misguided in your information. The sports moved on ten fold. And if your not in it now at the top end your dated and out of touch I believe you mean well but a little knowledge is a dangerous thing

Jesus h Christ Would u take driving lessons or driving advice of someone who can’t drive

Please list the number of world, European and national championships you have to your name sir in those 50 years. Michel manjot Christophe Auvert Charles Bardou Alessandro gaitano Damien Birgan what system do these guys shoot and is it the same as 5 years ago?

Just looked down the list and respectfully we’re talking different levels of coaching and champions. Talking about winning and winning are two different things sir. The sport needs every level of coach and there will be a market for everyone ours are just extremely different. I know every top...

Please next time stop me and come say hi. Yes I’ve coached numerous world champions and national champions but many beginners on their journey too. Maybe we see something quickly that can make a huge difference

The list above there isn’t one name on there that could take a student to become a serious competitive shot. A pattern plate give such false results and its only use is to check cartridge / choke combination. The sport changes every 5 years and gun fitting has changed immensely over the last...

Pattern plates are completely useless. It’s your right to not agree sir. That’s when people reading so the research and look at records and back grounds and choose who to believe moving forward

The post u moved him to read is one of the worst I’ve seen. unfortunately the site u mentioned falls at the bottom of the snake oil you talk about. Gun fitting is indeed an art form and should be left to those that know. And currently shooting has gone through a huge change and old style gun...

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Never bend a stock it’s never stays. Adjustable work well and on the dt11 it will need a serious re balance to make neutral

What mike knows about gun fitting and clay shooting you could write on a postage stamp and not touch the queens face

Pitch most definitely has a impact on the poi

Unfortunately not. I fit around 40 guns a week and see it daily hence I earn people against it

see many clients with both there is no comparison in craftsmanship

NEVER EVER EVER BEND. It’s a terrible idea that always goes back Balance is as important as fit. JWS stocks at Wolverhampton is by far the best around for a adjustable Not found a stock maker or gunsmith than can fit worth a ****

Exactly a well fitted gun won’t need anything to make it jump. If the back moves the front moves of the front moves your head moves

This will in fact have adverse effect. Balance is terrible. The hydraulic ones leak and crack stocks The stock bounces all over

Without doubt 

Pitch will alter the poi. Muzzle flip is a non relevant entity and seriously over thought. Lop, cast is the key but over all the neutral balance point of the gun is what determines is movement and handling 

Frank hsssekamp shoots full and full no problems with pattern blowing at all  High performance dark storm 28gm 7s  Tell your colleague to stay off the mushrooms