90yd edge on crosser

[ehb102]

Really? What's the bet? and which world champ is your money on? Although it's not going to come down to if the shooter is good enough!

I bet Ed could do it, but then I firmly believe Ed can do anything vis a vis shooting. I'm not picky about which world champion, use what you have in a related discipline. Money though, Ed's had all my pocket money so a tenner. And that's only because it's your calendar month.

 

[Aspire]

I bet Ed could do it, but then I firmly believe Ed can do anything vis a vis shooting. I'm not picky about which world champion, use what you have in a related discipline. Money though, Ed's had all my pocket money so a tenner. And that's only because it's your calendar month.

Haha What a month!

I think you'd better ask him first if its worth betting on! He may not feel its doable!

 

[** Pending Removal **]

I saw Ed hit a very distant crossing battue with 16grm and someone else's gun on a cartridge testing day at Andy Castle's ground that 3 of us were invited to many moons ago. 

He was the only one to hit it.....and it did show its face at the point you wanted to hit it.

I would put money on him :wink:

 

[Hamster]

How much would the shot drop over 90 yards?

Many a true word is spoken in jest   , the drop with any size shot, even SG would be substantial at that range. 

Regarding shooter accuracy and prowess, think of it this way: over ordinary ranges of say up to 50 yards the usable size of the pattern is probably around 3 feet, obviously much less the closer you get and as little as just over a foot at 15 yards or so, therefore shooter skill really plays a huge part.

At 90 yards (using 21g and largish shot) there will be nothing resembling what we know and refer to as a pattern ! Instead if it were even possible to measure a circle into which 70% of the shot end up, it would without a shadow of a doubt be several yards wide. You begin to see that shot placement is of secondary importance to luck. 

This is why old school Pool stands with ridiculous distance birds were more often than not won by chaps you didn't recognise carrying their guns with a sling & swivel.   

 

[chippy]

Many a true word is spoken in jest   , the drop with any size shot, even SG would be substantial at that range. 

Regarding shooter accuracy and prowess, think of it this way: over ordinary ranges of say up to 50 yards the usable size of the pattern is probably around 3 feet, obviously much less the closer you get and as little as just over a foot at 15 yards or so, therefore shooter skill really plays a huge part.

At 90 yards there will be nothing resembling what we know and refer to as a pattern ! Instead if it were even possible to measure a circle into which 70% of the shot end up, it would without a shadow of a doubt be several yards wide. You begin to see that shot placement is of secondary importance to luck. 

This is why old school Pool stands with ridiculous distance birds were more often than not won by chaps you didn't recognise carrying their guns with a sling & swivel.   

This pattern of several yards wide sounds just perfect for me, how do I achieve it at 20 to 30 yards?

 

[wylye]

I should think at that distance, that the Coriolis Effect would come into play!!

Is that Charlie Coriolis or his sister Aurora?

 

[Jim Wheeler]

my tuppence for this one is that at 70 yards  shooters will miss edge on standards about 1 in 10. problems are spread,,, and some lost velocity, you may clip it, but it will not break. when at 90 yards, mainly gaps in a half choke pattern, past that you can hit it as much as you like,,, edge on it won't break too often,! also ,you have about a 4 ot 5 foot drop with a No 7 shot,,and its only doing about 400 FPS,,,  GD has done his teal demo lots if times,, and as he gets to 90m, you hear pellets bounce off,,, a full face normal!.

enjoy the discussion,,,,,,,,

 

[StuFish]

hmmm - good idea.... 

It was nearly to the picnic table... I was erring towards the lake. 

(and yes - I work next to the window, so I can stand with my nose pressed up to it)

humm Oracle. Microsoft, Cisco? 

 

[ExSCA]

Msft

 

[Aspire]

Is that Charlie Coriolis or his sister Aurora?

Are they on Fantasy Island?

 

[Skeet UK]

Is that Charlie Coriolis or his sister Aurora?

Gaspard Gustave Coriolis   

 

[ips]

Sounds like luck and guess work at that range.

 

[Finners]

If that line is 90 yards, those cars must be pretty small. 

 

[ExSCA]

If that line is 90 yards, those cars must be pretty small. 

Why?

Average car is, say 10 feet?

I reckon you'd fit 27 of them on that line? No?

 

[Jonny English]

I have checked bingle earth against items I have know the length of and I've never known it to be massively out. Sometimes you aren't looking directly over the top of the area so when you click on the top of a roof line the angle can make you a metre or so out by the time it's got to the floor level. If you pay for the premium version of bingle earth I believe it will work out areas for you and more up to date images also.

 

[Jonny English]

God i looooooove learning new things....thank you.

I am off to try and try it on a piece of land 'up north now'.....don't suppose it can work out how many houses you can get on it can it? (Standard size).

I think if you buy the premium version instead of the free one it will work out the areas for you and more up to date images, on the free one you have to go old school of width x length and work it out from the distance measures as best as you can I'm afraid.

 

[ips]

I too have checked the length of stuff i thought i knew the length of but i can report the length was not in reality what i was given to believe it was. Never mind busy is more important than big.

Just saying

 

[bigolbear]

How Far    I need another trip to Edd Lyons !!!! 

 

[wylye]

Are they on Fantasy Island?

I think you're probably right. It would be more good luck than good shooting if an edge-on clay was hit at that range. I would like to see it done all the same...... measured, witnessed and proven.

 

[Nimbusgb]

This pattern of several yards wide sounds just perfect for me, how do I achieve it at 20 to 30 yards?

Cut your barrels down to 14"