Beretta build quality

[chippy]

After reading about problems people have been having with new berettas,i must admit i did not believe them as my 682 gold e which is 13 years old and shoots 200 shells a week and has never had a fault in its life.but after buying a new 692 i can see why.i removed the ejectors to clean them and they were totally dry no lubrication at all.on a gun which is 2 weeks old and has fired 200 shots.i'am going to strip the action now to see what thats like.

 

[Hamster]

On the whole Beretta's are better built, more reliable, more durable and with innately better engineering than anything out there in the same price range; make that anything up to 4 times the price.

 

[chippy]

On the whole Beretta's are better built, more reliable, more durable and with innately better engineering than anything out there in the same price range; make that anything up to 4 times the price.

Last week i would have totally agreed with you.

 

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Perazzis are excellent value as well.....just saying..!

 

[Hamster]

Last week i would have totally agreed with you.

A week is a long time in politics  :abe:  , really though, even if the 692 has early teething faults which I know it shouldn't, it still doesn't alter the fact that mid price Beretta guns are shot the world over with relatively few break downs. One reason the 692 seems to have too many issues is possibly due to the unprecedented rates they've sold from launch which probably made them rush though a few batches ?!

 

[sscottsmith1234]

Must say i'm just on my 2nd 682, previous one i had shot for ten years. Never had a problem with either of them! My dad shoots a 682 as well, had a firing pin break but it is 94 vintage! You always hear the horror story's !

 

[claycruncher]

I've had a 682 gold e, had problems with that. One barrel wouldn't fire if the selector was set to fire bottom first and the fore end rattled lose. Also had a dt10 same problem again, fore end kept coming lose. All purchased brand new, never again. Flimsy guns

 

[bostonmick]

I have shot berettas for many years and have probably owned around thirty over the years I have only ever had one small problem that was fixed in twenty minutes by my gunsmith while I waited in his shop.and this was down to a extra part fitted to comply with the American market,all gun makers who produce volumes are bound to get problems none are immune and with figures of over 40% of world market they cant be to bad,if the only problem you had was that the ejectors were dry on collecting from your dealer I would say the gun had not been checked prior to sale as my gunsmith checks all guns before putting them on the shelf new or used.

 

[ips]

It is an unfortunate fact imo that modern beretta are not as well made or as good as 80s 90s models. Don't know why that should be but had nearly 20 in 28 yrs and that's my opinion. Anyone who wants a work horse and a quality gun look for that era spend 300 on stock re finish and service etc. Job done. Even my eell is not as good quality as many lower spec guns i have owned in 90s

just my opinion and i hate to admit it.

 

[Hotshot100]

The original 682 was a brilliant gun. I don't think Beretta have ever made a gun since that quite equals it. Mind you if they did no one would ever change their gun.

Look at Barry and Paul Simpson!!

 

[Les53]

After reading about problems people have been having with new berettas,i must admit i did not believe them as my 682 gold e which is 13 years old and shoots 200 shells a week and has never had a fault in its life.but after buying a new 692 i can see why.i removed the ejectors to clean them and they were totally dry no lubrication at all.on a gun which is 2 weeks old and has fired 200 shots.i'am going to strip the action now to see what thats like.

A lot of new guns get covered in a rather dry waxy sort of  coating for protection. This must be removed before the gun is used. I seem to remember that many owners manuals say that the coating should be cleaned off and the gun lubricated before use. My last MK38 seemed to have a vast amount of the protective coating on it, my DT11 also had quite a bit, but it is easily removed with a bit of gun oil prior to use.

 

[chippy]

I stripped the action today and the top lever pivot and spring were greased but not the cam.a bit of grease on there has freed off the top lever nicely.the hammers and sears and trigger linkage had a little oil on which is ok.but the cocking rods were bone dry so i greased them.it now feels like a gun should tight but smooth.

 

[RobertBeard]

I stripped the action today and the top lever pivot and spring were greased but not the cam.a bit of grease on there has freed off the top lever nicely.the hammers and sears and trigger linkage had a little oil on which is ok.but the cocking rods were bone dry so i greased them.it now feels like a gun should tight but smooth.

Should this have been done by Beretta the manufacturer, GMK as importers or the selling dealer as a form of PDI?

All 3 have failed in my book!

 

[wylye]

There is no doubt at all that modern Berettas are not he same quality as the guns they produced 20 years ago. The older 686/7 is still a desirable gun as the wood will be of better quality and with average use will still be a good gun in ten years time. The quality of the alloy action has changed too - unless its just a different finish. I picked up an old 682 the other day and it felt like a proper, quality gun. Lovely.

As to the comment that they should be good because they make so many, it doesn't work that way. I mean, look at Fiat.

 

[Buffalo]

There is no doubt at all that modern Berettas are not he same quality as the guns they produced 20 years ago. The older 686/7 is still a desirable gun as the wood will be of better quality and with average use will still be a good gun in ten years time. The quality of the alloy action has changed too - unless its just a different finish. I picked up an old 682 the other day and it felt like a proper, quality gun. Lovely.

As to the comment that they should be good because they make so many, it doesn't work that way. I mean, look at Fiat.

FIAT = Fix It Again Tomorrow

 

[Will Hewland]

Everybody knows that Lotus stood for Lots Of Trouble, Usually Serious. I had a DB9 and realised that Aston was Always Some Trouble, Often Niggly..

 

[Hamster]

Am rolling Honda floor, Sierra Doctor in the house ?