Chokes For My Beretta 686E

[ExSCA]

How do I find out what kind of chokes my gun has?

I was idly looking at some twiddly chokes for my gun, but apparently Berettas have more than one type... I have some in my original gun case - but I'm not sure if they are Mobil, Optima or something else.

I'm not planning on being one of those fellas that changes chokes every time I step on the stand - but I want to get a set that I can play with at the pattern plate to understand the differences.

Anyone steer me to a good place to get a set in a fancy box with a little shiny twiddly key - Teague? Beretta Own Brand?

What's the wisdom here?

 

[optima]

mobile are shorter about 2 inches,optima (internal) about 2 .5 inches, optima extended which stick out the end about 3 inches

 

[Will Hewland]

If you just want to go to a pattern plate, I would borrow some. Me and Phil w will likely have whatever you need.

Optima are the long chokes, but flush fit. Have a look online, you will soon suss which you have. Once you know, you can also get prices for twiddly set. Where are the ones that came with your gun then?

CSC3

 

[Adam]

Try this link Matt

http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=73495

 

[GavB]

for a beretta 686e I have the beretta victory extended chokes about 35 - 40 pounds each

 

[Westward]

The 686E takes Mobil chokes. Unfortunately I've just traded mine and sold on a collection of chokes. On my 686E I found the makers chokes to pattern with a very hot core so I started collecting Teague chokes which patterned much more evenly in my gun. The thing about Nigel Teague is he sizes chokes according to a typical measured bore size rather than what the maker says or what's stamped on the barrels. Beretta Mobil bores are nominally .724" but most are more like .727". A makers cylinder choke based on nominal bore size would in fact be nearer to a skeet and on up the range, every choke would pattern tighter than expected.

You can't get better chokes than Teagues.

 

[Fuzrat]

If you just want a play at a pattern plate Im sure mrs fuz will give you a lend of her set of extended victory chokes

Edit, In my ever so humble opinion there is only 1 aftermarket choke and that is teague

 

[ExSCA]

Great advice - and thanks for the offers... I'm just figuring out what I want.

So - by Adams link and the other advice - should I be looking at the 'Beretta Flush' or 'Beretta Extended' on this page :

http://www.teagueprecisionchokesltdshop.co.uk/store/Beretta.html

or is it ANY of those - what is the difference between extended and super extended and ported?

 

[JonSkeet2]

If yours are Optima I have factory and Briley and the Brileys are the dogs undercarriage.

Chokes are a very personal thing, you just have to be happy with them and the patterns they produce. To be honest the difference they make is so negligible at the lower level and then the cartridge comes into play. I had doubts about switching to 38 or 12 but even at club shoots have not been penalised by it, no chippy breaks on an incomer with a 5 yard kill point.

I'm relearning to shoot skeet one eyed with half, either dust or missed; however I will use SKT in comp

Jon.

 

[Fuzrat]

no difference except ported get filthy and are a pig to clean, otherwise its up to personal preference how much you want hanging out the end of your barrels

 

[Westward]

no difference except ported get filthy and are a pig to clean, otherwise its up to personal preference how much you want hanging out the end of your barrels

That's about it. Nigel himself said that ported chokes are of no use but he makes them because people want them. I haven't asked him but I suspect the same is true for the super extended. I've been happy with both flush and normal extended.

 

[JonSkeet2]

The porting alledgedly reduces the amount of percieved recoil but only by about 5% so you can't really tell, the other is reduced muzzle flip.

Jon.

 

[Will Hewland]

Matt,

when you go pattern testing, take some contrasting cartridges. You will find that the difference between a cheap fibre 8 and an expensive plastic 7 is at least a half choke!! This is why I gave up with chokes and went for a fixed gun. I had it made half and half, then used two cartridges for pattern change on a course. (Then I gave up even doing that and just use one cartridge..) My only wish is sometimes that I could stick in a cylinder choke for silly close stuff - or indeed find a cartridge that REALLY opens out quickly.

By the way, whatever is in your gun now works fine, from looking at your kills..Cheers,

CSC3

 

[Will Hewland]

Actually, anybody know a cartridge that opens out really well? Dont say `9's` because they dont especially..

Free bacon roll and tea to the best suggestion.

CSC3

 

[40UP]

don't start plomb disco again

 

[Will Hewland]

Yes, the cartridge I require must function without a glitter ball present..

CSC3

 

[Hamster]

Actually, anybody know a cartridge that opens out really well? Dont say `9's` because they dont especially..

Free bacon roll and tea to the best suggestion.

CSC3

Well if we go by the oft quoted suggestion that fast shells lead to more open patterns :???: , then something like the Victory Sonics or Hull Sovereigns should do the trick. They won't of course, because it is actually the cheaper slower brands that as you know throw more open. :wink:

I read a very long US thread once where some of the ultra anoraks had even tried to load misshapen and multi size pellet shells in the hope of achieving the dream rabbit round , but to no avail. You'll only achieve a chokes notch worth of difference, easily achieved by dropping down a choke in other words. This is why I rarely miss the opportunity of putting a Cyl or Sk in when coming up against very close rabbits or driven.

Having said all this I will mention that the mostest openest, evenest and nice to look at pattern I ever shot was with a no. 7 - 32 gram Baikal Rekord plastic back in the day. It was through the Cyl choke of my first gun, Laurona 28" with two triggers. :kiss: Thinking back that pattern would fetch any face rabbit inside 35 yards.

 

[ExSCA]

Yes, the cartridge I require must function without a glitter ball present..

This indicates the last era during which Mr Clever was in a disco :lol:

 

[Will Hewland]

For sale: White flares.

CSC3