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Thank you for the points and I don’t disagree with Will for one second. I’m up in Belper which makes Will’s very kind offer difficult to take up sadly.You do need to get someone to look at the fit whilst mounted. EJC is a very nice ground and I would make the journey to see Will.
There are so many things that might be wrong (or right). The 694 has a wide stock, which reduces cast, and if you head is too upright etc. etc. Will has correctly pointed out that new shooters tend stand too upright - I liken it to skiing in that more control comes from the stance being more aggressive - very roughly with conventional/sunglasses glasses on, a good mount means you would be looking out of the top third.
It's not just the mount that's an issue but that the mount is a personal thing and the gun's standard dimensions are a manufacturers compromise. If your 694 has the standard stock (35/55) it is extremely unlikely to be too low.
Its also that changing one thing affects another - pitch is often overlooked and can easily explain mussel flip/kick. Even a small change with even out the contact area.
I'm afraid (and have seen) shops say a gun fits when its well off the mark - they bend the person around the gun - and that's what you must now avoid.
In short - decent coach before you touch the gun.
Yes - I know the place and did email them re a fitting but never had a reply…..maybe I should have called in as it’s only 20 mins away. I‘ve just emailed this fella - fingers crossedAs you’re in Belper , perhaps a call to
Neville Guns in Alfreton ? splendid place , nice people , like a gun filled version of the Tardis . They could probably help via the Joe Neville shooting school up the road from the shop ,
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575S would work perhaps?
I would try to find somewhere with a "try gun" that can be adjusted to find a comfortable comb and heel angle, to give you some idea of the correct gun fit. A simple way of getting the correct body position is to point your belt buckle to where you intent to kill the bird, then you won't over stretch!You do need to get someone to look at the fit whilst mounted. EJC is a very nice ground and I would make the journey to see Will.
There are so many things that might be wrong (or right). The 694 has a wide stock, which reduces cast, and if you head is too upright etc. etc. Will has correctly pointed out that new shooters tend stand too upright - I liken it to skiing in that more control comes from the stance being more aggressive - very roughly with conventional/sunglasses glasses on, a good mount means you would be looking out of the top third.
It's not just the mount that's an issue but that the mount is a personal thing and the gun's standard dimensions are a manufacturers compromise. If your 694 has the standard stock (35/55) it is extremely unlikely to be too low.
Its also that changing one thing affects another - pitch is often overlooked and can easily explain mussel flip/kick. Even a small change with even out the contact area.
I'm afraid (and have seen) shops say a gun fits when its well off the mark - they bend the person around the gun - and that's what you must now avoid.
In short - decent coach before you touch the gun.
I’ve been clay shooting for about 6 months and go every week. I’ve got a beretta 694 and I love it - silly point but i seem to shooting where I’m aiming if that makes sense, even if I’m not always aiming in the right place, practise and some lessons will sort this I’m sure.
Hoping to avoid the fair but not needed comments of ‘should have tried one first’, so here goes. When I mount the gun and get a full view of the rib, I’ve begun to notice that the but of the cone is sitting about an inch above my shoulder. What modifications would be available from the gunsmith the bring the cone lower.
Thank you in anticipation of some insight
I’ve been clay shooting for about 6 months and go every week. I’ve got a beretta 694 and I love it - silly point but i seem to shooting where I’m aiming if that makes sense, even if I’m not always aiming in the right place, practise and some lessons will sort this I’m sure.
Hoping to avoid the fair but not needed comments of ‘should have tried one first’, so here goes. When I mount the gun and get a full view of the rib, I’ve begun to notice that the but of the cone is sitting about an inch above my shoulder. What modifications would be available from the gunsmith the bring the cone lower.
Thank you in anticipation of some insight
I would try to find somewhere with a "try gun" that can be adjusted to find a comfortable comb and heel angle, to give you some idea of the correct gun fit. A simple way of getting the correct body position is to point your belt buckle to where you intent to kill the bird, then you won't over stretch!Its also that changing one thing affects another - pitch is often overlooked and can easily explain mussel flip/kick. Even a small change with even out the contact area.
I'm afraid (and have seen) shops say a gun fits when its well off the mark - they bend the person around the gun - and that's what you must now avoid.
In short - decent coach before you touch the gun.
I'm a little confused reading this, I would have thought a wider stock increases the gun's cast (or reduces the need for cast to be added, whichever way you want to look at it)? Noob here , so just trying to understand better!The 694 has a wide stock, which reduces cast, and if you head is too upright etc. etc.
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