Doctor Lecter
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i don't shoot game or fitask so always pre mount on all esp targets , I started off on dlt so I blame that for my habit !
How many of you pre mount the gun?
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I'm with you on this one. As regards the 100m sprint, I use my OAP velcro fastener shoes.......problem over !
This reminds me of the Queen's Jubilee Invitation Shoot at H & H shooting ground, all those years ago. It was a 100 bird sporter BUT 25 of those birds were on the famous 'walk up'. For us Game shooters it presented no problem, but for the out and out clay shooters it caused chaos. Some were even walking left foot forward, gun in shoulder, and dragging the right foot behind them so as to always have the 'front' foot ahead of them, it was absolutely hysterical. Just a shame we did not have the mobile phone 'camera' back then....................or maybe not though ! The Army Catering Corps did the lunch, and WHAT a lunch, wow !
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donna
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I too shoot both ways. Have to shoot gun down for fitasc and have no problem with that at all but I think that's because you are not in a stand as such so have lots of vision for targets whereas if I'm in a sporting stand with maybe trees or bushes all around you or even boards on the side I find myself pre mounting the gun because I feel I have not got enough time to get on the target if the targets are fast and disappearing behind a tree etc.
Certain targets I always shoot gun down, ie a crow, or a target that's a long way out coming in, if I don't do that I end up either shooting it too early or tracking it and being very hesitant.
Certain targets I always shoot gun down, ie a crow, or a target that's a long way out coming in, if I don't do that I end up either shooting it too early or tracking it and being very hesitant.
Will Hewland
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Proper gun down, below chest, is a definite hinderance to the best possible score around a good sporting clay shoot. A few good shots can shoot fully gun down brilliantly, but when they shoot Sporting they will hold the gun higher. I recall watching the final of the world championships a few years ago. 5 out of the 6 finalists had the gun in the shoulder (or very close) as they called for the target. GD was the winner I think and he held it lower down, but still not that low.
Thanks Will,I do have the gun very low,I watch others shoot gun up and have had lots of people tell me to shoot gun up. Currently doing ok with my style and getting better scores than a few shooting gun up. I am never going to be GD or even a good competition shot. I like shooting the way I do as walking up behind a hunting spaniel you have to have the butt low and the barrels high. Understand what you are saying though and dont disagree.
Will Hewland
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Game shooting is very different and if that's the driving force, no problem. When I occasionally shoot game the but of the gun is on my hip and the barrels nearly vertical most of the day..
You can see hardened game shooters a mile off when they shoot clays. Even dropping the gun right down between targets on report pairs. Massive handicap but culturally different and they aren't bothered about score usually.
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chippy
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I shoot gun down on most sporting targets apart from low trap type clays especially sim pairs. I find I can shoot fast crossing clays quicker gun down I think the mount gives the initial movement and gets the gun up to speed easier.
chippy
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The target that really gets me is the sim pair of overhead away's not that high but fast and dropping. Shooting them gun up means a dead gun and a struggle to catch up. And gun down means the mount lifts the gun when you need to be going downwards.
Will Hewland
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Gun in shoulder, I would hold the muzzle at about 30 degrees from vertical. I would look back further, nearly vertically. As the clay appears, I would let it come to the muzzle, track it for a moment then pull away/ below and fire.
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Ah, BUT not all of us though. I use a mixture of gun up/down dependant on the target. I do drop the gun well out of my shoulder if the second target has a long way to travel, I do prefer to wait, mount and shoot on those. Having said that I do NOT drop the gun to around my waist, as I see others doing on a regular basis ?
Like you, when Game shooting (using a 'proper gun'), I rest the stock on my hip, although nowadays I struggle to find my hip so I stick the stock in my right cartridge pocket !
chippy
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I must admit I've never tried the gun in shoulder but head off stock mount. Will give it a try.
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Looking at the latest results from 23rd European CH Sporting is taking a Trap/Skeet route from "how many can you hit" into "not missing a single one".
To keep the juices flowing there might be some restrictions on the way. 24g limit and a low gun mount being imperative?
Will Hewland
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Well, Fitasc is gun down, so it exists. But that's fairly specialised discipline with experienced referees. Enforcing a gun down rule in Sporting would be a nightmare.
paul b
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Not shot it for a long time but im prety shure compak can be shot gun up,and max distance of targets has moved closer so scores will be higher,24grm wouldn't be a disadvantage at all.
Will Fitasc Compak rules allow free use of the gun, only game oriented Fitasc Game Compak and Parcours de Chasse demand so called "Fitasc" hold.
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