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CharlesP

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I'm pondering importing a stock for my 20 bore Urika. It will come from Brignoli Silvio (or is it the other way round) in Italy.

As it's just a bit of wood can I ask that it be sent to my home address? Or as a bit of a licenseable firearm must it go to an RFD?

 
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Nope stocks are just pieces of wood and can be sent to your home.

It is surprising what parts are exempt and can be ordered in. Just imported some high capacity 'banana' magazines from the Czech Republic for my rifle, as they are unavailable in the UK and they were not covered by any restrictions whatsoever.

 
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Shotgun parts are less restricted than rifles and imports from EU are easy but try getting a stock from the US and you can hit all sorts of issues.

 
Shotgun parts are less restricted than rifles and imports from EU are easy but try getting a stock from the US and you can hit all sorts of issues.
Not true, you can import rifle/shotgun stocks from the states without a problem.

You will need to pay any relevant duty etc so make sure it still works out cheaper. RM will also sting you our end.

You cant import anything classed as 'tactical' or 'mil spec' tho, as they have restrictions on those items. Came up against this one myself a few months ago trying to get hold of a rifle stock.

 
Not true, you can import rifle/shotgun stocks from the states without a problem.
This is what i was referring too ITAR.... Same reason you can be arrested here for selling an NV system to a none EU country......

You cant import anything classed as 'tactical' or 'mil spec' tho, as they have restrictions on those items. Came up against this one myself a few months ago trying to get hold of a rifle stock.
It's not the "class" but the export licensing even the big boys who have entire compliance depts get stung http://www.militaryaerospace.com/articles/2009/07/itar-violations-have-produced-high-profile-defense-export-penalties.html

 
Thanks for the information. Most helpful.

I have this morning ordered my stock. It will be interesting to see how long it takes as they have not estimated a delivery date.

Naturally in all the excitement I completely forgot to order the plastic carriage ring that protects the forend when the gun is in its case, and I forgot to order the extra stock shims/spacers. I am now going to start seriously having a play with cast and comb. It won't increase my scores but I enjoy messing about with things like that.

 
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Ah the joys of messing about with a mm here and a mm there. Your in for months of fun mate :)

Insert sarcastic smiley thingie.

 
Yes, IPS, I know. But fun is what I'm after.

I always was an inveterate 'knob twiddler'. Perhaps it comes from thos monstrous hi-fi systems of the seventies with a thousand things to twiddle!

Maybe I should stick to the cardboard and duct tape method...

 
Ha yes i remember those proper decks :)

Only joking mate sometimes you have to have a fiddle with it. Ooh Er :)

 
My stock arrived this afternoon.

Rather than the pale featureless wood that I was expecting - a bit like you get on a cheap air rifle - it's quite nice, and it actually has some figure and grain, so it matches my forend quite well, which the old one doesn't. It's not one of those flame figured stocks that are found on the classic English game guns or the de luxe Italian weapons, but it's OK.

The Italian firm who supplied it are Brignoli Silvio. It's a pleasure dealing with them. Prompt replies to emails, and a choice of payment methods, coupled with a wide range of stock. My stock (no pun intended!) wasn't listed; when I enquired about one they promptly added it to their listings so I could order it. Thanks guys.

Oh yes, the price. I was quite pleased that it cost €163, postage was €13. Tax was added at 22%, and it all came to just light of £180 after the conversion was done. Now that aint bad for a stock, and it's very good for one that I'm extra pleased with.

What a shame our UK importer couldn't have supplied one...

And of course you were all perfectly correct, no certificate needed, no armed response group shadowing the postman. Thank you for your input.

The other thing that arrived in the post was a Seeland cartridge picker-up. One of those telescoping magnetic things that allows we arthritic & creaky older ones a sporting chance of retrieving at least some of our empties. I decided to buy one because although my DIY magnet-on-a cleaning-rod works just fine it doesn't telescope down to a pen sized thingy that clips into my pocket.

I do feel today's acquisitions are a result!

Edited to correct poor spolling - spolling chicker not wooking  right

 
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A quick update - I fitted my new stock this morning.

Actually I started the day before yesterday. Whipped the old stock off the gun and offered up the new one. Sadly a gentle (no hammers, no stock bolt) offering-up resulted in a chunk of the internal "nose" dropping off. Bizarrely it somehow was a protruding bit with the grain running in entirely the wrong direction. I had a good look and a think and mixed up some Araldite. By this morning it had cured rock-hard, so I was good to go.

The thing needed fitting, the wood was just a tad too wide internally, so I remove just a whisker at a time until all was a snug fit, popped the shim and spacer in the right way round and fitted the nut onto the stock bolt.

To my dismay the new stock is noticeably taller and wider where it meets the action. Upon measuring it's a thicker grip, too, although that doesn't matter. There's a visible step, and it sticks out like a sore thumb. I have checked to order, which is most definitely for the right stock.

Is it possible that:

a)  Beretta have started making 20 bore stocks generally bigger at the muzzle end?

or

B)  Have Messrs Brignoli Silvio sent me a 12 bore one in error?

Anyone any idea where I stand?

Anyone out thered in a position to measure up the width of a 12 bore Urika stock where it meets the muzzle and the top to bottom measurement at the same junction?

One temptation would be to remove a little wood to blend things in. The existing curves may just allow this. Problem, of course, is that the Beretta satin finish polyurathane-style finish may be impossible to blend in!

Once again I wish I hadn't bothered, of course. But I am very fond of this little auto, it served me well on Thursday save for a misfire. That I reckon had to be a cartridge problem, all the others went bang at the right time, that one didn't go bang at all after three attempts. It did, however, have a healthy dimple in the primer, just like all my empties.

Five rounds of ten. Scored 9-9-9-10 but only 3 on the "misfire round" I must work on that.

It is astonishing how a misfire or malfunction can absolutely clobber my concentration. I know that from the tribulations earlier in the year when a 50% failure rate pushed my mood and scores right down into the depths. I know you're all going to think I am completely bonkers for not throwing the gun away and buying a proper one, but perseverance and switching to Armusa (or is it Carmusa) cartridges made the failure to function problem disappear. Just possible it was the advent of warmer and drier weather. I don't know. Anyway the thing performs OK now. Having said that I do notice a ring of corrosion beginning on the piston slide that has appeared over the last few weeks.

Thanks in advance

Charles

PS the strange smiley face appears unbidden instead of an option b. I am unable to edit the dam' thing out!

 
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The thought of visiting a stocker makes my wallet tremble. Thank you for the suggestion, but I have decided to contact Messrs Brignoli Silvio to see what they say, in the meantime I've reverted to the original stock complete with cosmetic damage.

At less than £150 for an original it seemed like a bargain. A stocker's bill would be greater than that for a new stock, and if hand made it wouldn't look like the Beretta one.

 
The thought of visiting a stocker makes my wallet tremble. Thank you for the suggestion, but I have decided to contact Messrs Brignoli Silvio to see what they say, in the meantime I've reverted to the original stock complete with cosmetic damage.

At less than £150 for an original it seemed like a bargain. A stocker's bill would be greater than that for a new stock, and if hand made it wouldn't look like the Beretta one.
Charles, why not have a word with Ian Mulliner before you do anything? He's only over in Wimborne and may be able to help,he's a great guy.

 
Not a bad idea. If the response from Italy is along the lines of "Sorry our mistake we've sent another" then of course I don't have a problem, but if that fails then I'll give him a ring.

 
Of course , ringing him may result in popping over to see him, which may expose me to the risk of further wallet-trembling. I understand he keeps desirable shotguns in stock.

 

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