One eye, both eyes, does it matter?

[Oldblaster]

Just put a small smear of vasaline on the inside of your glasses where the pupil looks down the barrel of your non dominant eye. Keep both eyes open and get the best of both worlds! Good luck shooting.

 

[Will Hewland]

Just put a small smear of vasaline on the inside of your glasses where the pupil looks down the barrel of your non dominant eye. Keep both eyes open and get the best of both worlds! Good luck shooting.

Or to get the same effect, use magic tape. Less messy and will stay in place. But principle is good.

 

[Hamster]

I honestly think you'd be better off experimenting with vaseline or similar opaque creams on the outside of the lens because some produce a fairly noticeable and therefore irritating vapour which would be off putting, it is only meant as a very short term "fix" but prolly easier to wipe off and move a fraction than a stick on thingy would be. 

 

[k80ben]

if you shoot off the shoulder that matches your master eye shoot with 2 eyes if you dont shoot with 1..... its that simple

gun fit first

 

[Hamster]

if you shoot off the shoulder that matches your master eye shoot with 2 eyes if you dont shoot with 1..... its that simple

gun fit first

I shoot both eyes open off the wrong shoulder (left master eyed, right handed), have done for over 30 years. 

 

[quantico]

I use both eyes. but being right handed and right eyed cant hurt either. 

I would not be worried if what you do is different. if it works for you then enjoy. 

 

[Salopian]

Don't use both eyes------------------------------------------------------------Closed.

 

[MPB]

Both eyes open, follow the clay, give lead, then shoot. Dont look at the end of the gun. You dont look at the end of your hands when you catch a ball, do you???

 

[Guest]

Both eyes open, follow the clay, give lead, then shoot. Dont look at the end of the gun. You dont look at the end of your hands when you catch a ball, do you???

Sorry, you’ve got that wrong! I’ll bet there isn’t a AAA that doesn’t see the barrel-clay relationship. 

The catching the ball without looking at your hand comparisisim doesn’t work, try missing the ball two feet in front without looking!!!

 

[Will Hewland]

Sorry, you’ve got that wrong! I’ll bet there isn’t a AAA that doesn’t see the barrel-clay relationship. 

The catching the ball without looking at your hand comparisisim doesn’t work, try missing the ball two feet in front without looking!!!

This is semantics I think. You’re both right. Yes, you absolutely need to see / perceive the barrel to clay relationship. It’s all about LOOKING at the clay, with your full attention and focus, but you will SEE the barrel also, even if not in perfect focus. It’s like looking at the words you are writing and being very aware that the pen is there without staring at it.

 

[clayclouter]

is Spinal Drag a tribute band ??

 

[MPB]

Sorry, you’ve got that wrong! I’ll bet there isn’t a AAA that doesn’t see the barrel-clay relationship. 

The catching the ball without looking at your hand comparisisim doesn’t work, try missing the ball two feet in front without looking!!!

Dont be sorry David. I stand by what i say, if you catch a ball thats going from left to right you have to give your hands "lead" to catch the ball thats travelling faster than your stationary hands, yet you still dont look at your hands. The only difference is is that you learn to catch a ball from a very early age so its engrained in to your memory. Are there any AAA shooters on this forum that have an opinion???

 

[ips]

I agree with MBP I don't see lead EVER I don't see the barrel or bead.....thats not actually true on the occasion I do see barrel or bead I inevitably miss. Focus on target or bird and keep barrels moving and job done.

having said that, if your shooting esp which is a know trajectory as opposed to trap or game then I can see how "aiming at it" might work better.

 

[Will Hewland]

Dont be sorry David. I stand by what i say, if you catch a ball thats going from left to right you have to give your hands "lead" to catch the ball thats travelling faster than your stationary hands, yet you still dont look at your hands. The only difference is is that you learn to catch a ball from a very early age so its engrained in to your memory. Are there any AAA shooters on this forum that have an opinion???

So sorry, I’m one clay off AAA. Ignore everything I say.. ? (What I could do is stop shooting 18 different grounds per year and just shoot the easier ones, which would solve my problem and make me much better for handing out advice). 

 

[schmokinn]

Dont be sorry David. I stand by what i say, if you catch a ball thats going from left to right you have to give your hands "lead" to catch the ball thats travelling faster than your stationary hands, yet you still dont look at your hands. The only difference is is that you learn to catch a ball from a very early age so its engrained in to your memory. Are there any AAA shooters on this forum that have an opinion???

What class are you in?

 

[Westward]

I keep hearing claims that you should see nothing but the clay and shouldn't see the gun or the lead etc. but from a purely physiological standpoint, having a 3 foot lump of metal in front of your face makes that pretty well impossible. The brain is highly adept at delivering neural activity where it's most needed which means almost all our vision is centred on the clay but there has to be a level of awareness of the position of the gun relative to the clay.

Everyone gets the lead wrong sometimes, so how can a correction be made to the next shot if you don't know where the gun was when you got the lead wrong?

 

[ips]

Loading / minding a gentleman yesterday. A nicer bloke you could not wish to meet but had only shot a few times and was lets say......hopeless.

Second drive he says "Ian, does it make any difference if you close one eye" I reply "well sir , that would depend on which eye you closed"

we had a chuckle together  :smile:

 

[Hamster]

If you're not aware of the barrel/clay relationship you'll never be able to adjust for near or complete misses.

 

[ips]

What class are you in?

does it matter

 

[DavidJ]

Dont be sorry David. I stand by what i say, if you catch a ball thats going from left to right you have to give your hands "lead" to catch the ball thats travelling faster than your stationary hands, yet you still dont look at your hands. The only difference is is that you learn to catch a ball from a very early age so its engrained in to your memory. Are there any AAA shooters on this forum that have an opinion???

I don't think catching a ball is a good example, you don't give your hands lead when catching a ball, you get them there before the ball arrives. Catching a ball involves two objects, the ball and your hands (I'm counting hands as one object) shooting involves three objects, the moving target, the gun, and then the shot. You have to put the shot on the right line at the right distance in-front of the target and at the distance the clay is away from you, not on the ends of your arms.

I'd agree that most AAA shooters see the clay to end of barrel relationship and convey this as lead, the numbers they use in feet or whatever are personal, which is why I struggle to take others advice or to give it if I'm hitting a target and someone else is missing. If they do miss then they have a known base from which to make a correction, more or less lead. IMO if you don't see this relationship then how can you make a controlled change to the shot that is repeatable if the change is correct.

having said that, if your shooting esp which is a know trajectory as opposed to trap or game then I can see how "aiming at it" might work better.

How can "aiming at it" work.... do you mean shoot it when it's landed?????