She's done it again!

[Jan Powell]

I doff my cap to the legend that is Kimberley Rhode who's won another Olympic medal today in Rio.

A world champion aged 13, an Olympic medal at every games since Atlanta 96 and in every continent. Three golds in Skeet and Double trap and umpteen World Championship and Pan American titles. The list goes on and on...

She's not only the greatest Olympic shooter of either *** in the modern era, she's now truly deserves the accolade of the greatest shotgun shooter of all time.

 

[Darkside]

"...greatest shotgun shooter of all time" ??? No!!! 

 

[Jan Powell]

Who's better? Wayne Mayes and Todd Bender dominated Skeet, George Digweed has dominated Sporting but these are predominantly domestic disciplines. Kimberley has competed against and beaten a true world class field year after year.

To win gold medals in Skeet and Double Trap is the broad equivalent of Mo Farah winning in both the marathon and the sprint! I can't think of anyone, male or female, that's even come close to matching her achievements.

 

[Hamster]

I doff my cap to the legend that is Kimberley Rhode who's won another Olympic medal today in Rio.

A world champion aged 13, an Olympic medal at every games since Atlanta 96 and in every continent. Three golds in Skeet and Double trap and umpteen World Championship and Pan American titles. The list goes on and on...

She's not only the greatest Olympic shooter of either *** in the modern era, she's now truly deserves the accolade of the greatest shotgun shooter of all time.

Please tell me this is a joke ? 

Who's better? Wayne Mayes and Todd Bender dominated Skeet, George Digweed  has dominated Sporting but these are predominantly domestic disciplines. Kimberley has competed against and beaten a truly world class field year after year.

To win gold medals in Skeet and Double Trap is the broad equivalent of Mo Farah winning in both the marathon and the sprint! I can't think of anyone, male or female, that is capable of matching her achievements.

She is not even comparable to the worlds number 39 in ESP or Fitasc never mind George. 

 

[Jan Powell]

Comparing one discipline to the another is always difficult and it's tempting to think your discipline is the best. There's many successful shooters across the world that have dominated their chosen discipline, some for a long time. 

There's only one that's switched from a discipline as distinct as Double Trap to one as distinct as Skeet, that has done it on an international stage and beaten the best the world has to offer for the past decade.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/olympics/rio-2016/2016/08/12/kim-rhode-skeet-shooting/88619694/

If you can think of anyone that's matched these achievements tell me. As far as I can see, there's nobody in the UK that's even come close.

 

[Hamster]

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-08-12/olympics-sponsors-want-nothing-to-do-with-team-usa-shootersRead the bit about the costs of training, bit of an eye opener even for us shooters who know the score so to speak. Kim Rhodes is an excellent shooter and a credit to Americans and the focus and impetus they place in their shooting sports, we could/should learn from them - but to pretend she is worthy of the accolade of greatest shooter   is just sooo missing the point about what shotgunning skills really are. 

Kim stand there and shoots 20 yard targets all day long, big deal, can she hit 117 x 120 targets at the British Open ? I will donate my entire gun cabinet to charidy if she hits 110 of such targets, prolly closer to 80-90 on a really good day. Girl's got skeet skills but not even in the same post code as the big boys in ESP. 

 

[Jan Powell]

Read the bit about the costs of training, bit of an eye opener even for us shooters who know the score so to speak. Kim Rhodes is an excellent shooter and a credit to Americans and the focus and impetus they place in their shooting sports, we could/should learn from them - but to pretend she is worthy of the accolade of greatest shooter   is just sooo missing the point about what shotgunning skills really are. 

Kim stand there and shoots 20 yard targets all day long, big deal, can she hit 117 x 120 targets at the British Open ? I will donate my entire gun cabinet to charidy if she hits 110 of such targets, prolly closer to 80-90 on a really good day. Girl's got skeet skills but not even in the same post code as the big boys in ESP. 

Let's turn this around. Is there a Sporting or FITASC shooter capable of winning multiple Olympic medals at Skeet and Double Trap, then do it year after year beating all comers in every corner of the world. I sincerely doubt even the best could come close.

It's true to say Sporting shooters are good at Sporting, Skeet shooters good at Skeet and so on. What makes Kimberley the greatest is the longevity of her achievements on a truly international stage in disciplines so opposite.

 

[foldAA]

i don't think you can comprare olympic discipline (with top of the world competing) to "British Open"....

This is just so remote.....

Kudos to Kimberly - it takes alot (i can only imagine) to get to the top and stay there for a while....

 

[jwpzx9r]

These arguments are futile. There is so much difference between the disciplines to start with but there is also a difference in the pressures on the shooters... the Olympics come round once every four years and just qualifying is an achievement you don't just turn up and hand over your cash. I don't think you can compare but what you can say is it is a great achievement to win an Olympic medal but I don't think you can label a shooter the best every because they have won multiple times.

 

[Hamster]

i don't think you can comprare olympic discipline (with top of the world competing) to "British Open"....

This is just so remote.....

Kudos to Kimberly - it takes alot (i can only imagine) to get to the top and stay there for a while....

Let's turn this around. Is there a Sporting or FITASC shooter capable of winning multiple Olympic medals at Skeet and Double Trap, then do it year after year beating all comers in every corner of the world. I sincerely doubt even the best could come close.

It's true to say Sporting shooters are good at Sporting, Skeet shooters good at Skeet and so on. What makes Kimberley the greatest is the longevity of her achievements on a truly international stage in disciplines so opposite.

Are you aware how many World and European titles GD has won (literally taking on all comers meaning anyone who could afford to turn up and didn't even have to quaify) , others like RF and Ben as well as Cheryl have won multiple championships too - on proper hard targets that need hitting not 20 yard muscle memory jobs. Kim is a full time Skeet shooter, she likely couldn't even match most AA's on a 50 yard combo. 

 

[Darkside]

Comparing one discipline to the another is always difficult and it's tempting to think your discipline is the best. 

Is that not what your doing with Skeet?!?! 

Fauldsy has a Gold medal DT, multiple world champion FITASC/English sporting and can pump the skeet boys if he wishes...and I still wouldn't says he the best ever...but he's higher up the list than Kimberly!!!

 

[jwpzx9r]

 Kim is a full time Skeet shooter, she likely couldn't even match most AA's on a 50 yard combo. 

That is the fact Hammy BUT you have to ask how well could she adapt to full time ESP shooting? Everything is applicable for example GD has won lots of sporting based WC's but he has not won an Olympic gold where the pressures are entirely different. I won't take any side only say that it is very difficult to compare. Richard Faulds is probably a better example of what a sporting shooter can do...  

 

[ips]

there can never be "the best shooter of all time" because the disciplines and the context of the wins are so so widely different.

 

[Darkside]

 Kim is a full time Skeet shooter, she likely couldn't even match most AA's on a 50 yard combo. 

That is the fact Hammy BUT you have to ask how well could she adapt to full time ESP shooting? Everything is applicable for example GD has won lots of sporting based WC's but he has not won an Olympic gold where the pressures are entirely different. I won't take any side only say that it is very difficult to compare. Richard Faulds is probably a better example of what a sporting shooter can do...  

Skeet is for people how can't shoot sporting...

 

[jwpzx9r]

As an aside about the pressures of Olympic competition. I know it is an entirely different sport but when you see a multi grand slam winning tennis player in tears because he has just lost in the Olympics it really brings home how different the pressures are Djokovic probably knows he might not be up to it in the next Olympics. Now had that been a grand slam tourney he would more than likely just shrugged his shoulders and moved on.

Skeet is for people how can't shoot sporting...

And that is the sort of rot I would expect you to come out with YOU WOULD HAVE NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER OF QUALIFYING TO SHOOT SKEET AT THE OLYMPICS NEVER MIND WINNING AN OLYMPIC GOLD AT SKEET.

 

[cockney21]

The problem for 99.99 shooters is they have neither the money or time to shoot 5000 targets a week to even get to the level to get on a national team. That's the problem with the Olympic disciplines, they have to be a very exact format, and this means those who have the skills, money and time to practice this set format and will rise to the top. You might have just two of these requirements and will never get anywhere near a national team.

 

[Hamster]

Skeet is for people how can't shoot sporting...

I'm afraid that's the truth.

People cry for winning almost any major event, the reason that the Olympics are so emotional is that they are televised even for the weird sports/games/events we didn't even know existed AND they count towards your country's medal tally which decides where the entire country finishes so for a brief moment in time what you have done really matters. 

Many professional sports people don't even enter the Olympics in their chosen sport, ask any tennis player whether they want to win Wimbledon/US Open or an Olympic medal  :wink: , same for golf, ask the likely winners to chose between an Olympic/US Open or Sandwich Open win.  :wink:

 

[Mutley]

What a load of Tosh being bandied about.....

Why is sporting the be all and end all ?   It isnt, it will never be an olympic discipline, because you cant replicate the targets exactly around the world for world cups and qualification shoots.

The Olympics hold more emotion for people as it is a lot harder to qualify and compete in (as already said), its not pay and play....

George had a bash at DT, set a world record at the time, but got edged out, so who is the best all round shotgun shooter?  Matt Dryke would spring to mind.....

 

[tiptop]

She maybe the best Olympic shooter ever(so far), but the best shooter ever, nowhere near it. Go and google a few shooter profiles to see what people have actually won in their careers.