World Championships postponed

[Luke_(NL)]

Across the channel things are mildly less dire, at least where outside exercise and enjoyment of sports is concerned. The nationals were only held in a few disciplines, with other disciplines cancelled. We do get to practice, however.

Just wanted to send my sympathies for all affected, especially so where hopes of competition are out the window (and of course more so where affected by actual Covid, but that goes without saying).

 

[Westward]

And all this panic over an illness that's not statistically more dangerous than seasonal flu!

 

[paul b]

And all this panic over an illness that's not statistically more dangerous than seasonal flu!

Just plain wrong,the nhs in the next few months could be at the point where who lives or dies has to be decided by staff because they cant handle the influx of extra winter patients(which by the way was stretched before covid)

 

[Lloyd]

And all this panic over an illness that's not statistically more dangerous than seasonal flu!

“Lies, damned lies and statistics!”

Whilst it is true to say that the CFR (Case Fatality Ratio) isn’t especially high at <1% of infections, it’s infection rate of 5.7x new infections per infection (a measure of contagiousness) is very high; unlike MERS (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome; another Corona/SARS type virus) which had a mortality rate around ~34% of infections, but had very low Infection rate resulting in just 858 recorded deaths.

So it’s very small percentage of a very high number of infected people, resulting approximately 1.2 million deaths to date, which in my view makes Covid 19 some 1,400 times more dangerous than MERS 

“Seasonal flu” is a rather generic term as it could easily cover a dozen or more ‘negative sense  RNA [influenza] viruses  (RNA is a single strand of the DNA helix), which also has a very high infection rate and low CFR, but the population is largely ‘asymptomatic’ meaning they already have some level of anti-bodies to fight the virus. Covid is a new virus which in which we are as a species yet to develop antibodies in the population sufficient enough level to disregard Covid as just one more “seasonal flu” 

This has massive impact on healthcare as @paul b has already eluded to and of course economic impact.

I count myself lucky not to have not had covid 19 myself, that I’m still relatively young and healthy and have a good chance of recovery should I become infected. I also think myself very lucky that I do not have to make decisions that effect millions of people, who as a group, no matter what I decide is the best course of action, trying to balance expert opinions on health and economics and trying to contain mass hysteria versus mass apathy, knowing full well that I’m dammed if I do and I’m dammed if I don’t.

Statistics don’t lie. They’re just very poorly understood.

 

[Westward]

Just plain wrong,the nhs in the next few months could be at the point where who lives or dies has to be decided by staff because they cant handle the influx of extra winter patients(which by the way was stretched before covid)

Presumably you believe that all the covid cases in hospital are very sick and need clinical supervision and/or specialist care.

“Seasonal flu” is a rather generic term as it could easily cover a dozen or more ‘negative sense  RNA [influenza] viruses  (RNA is a single strand of the DNA helix), which also has a very high infection rate and low CFR, but the population is largely ‘asymptomatic’ meaning they already have some level of anti-bodies to fight the virus. Covid is a new virus which in which we are as a species yet to develop antibodies in the population sufficient enough level to disregard Covid as just one more “seasonal flu” 

That's a contradiction in terms. I suggest you look up an article in Saturday's Mail, written by Dr Michael Yeadon, a world renowned authority where he demonstrates how the government, thanks to following the flawed advice from Sage etc. have blundered into a blind ally of lockdowns followed by spikes.

 

[Jan Powell]

Gents

A little moderator input here.

I know the Coronavirus crisis provokes lively discussion but can we keep our comments shooting related. Feel free to express your wider thoughts by PM or on other web forums but please, not here.

 

[Mike]

Well, I'm off to Westlands tomorrow and Coniston Cold on Wednesday. That's the best I can do for now. Then it's just wait and wait and wait.

 

[ips]

Westward

Your avin a laugh, surely

Jan

It's the way conversation goes, chill and let it run

 

[ColinD]

I can see the Olympics if cancelled in 2021 being the end if it altogether, the IOC have said if it's canecelled again it wont be Tokyo next time, so who wants to take the risk of running it cost wise, and that the IOC now only think of it as how much money they can generate for themselves.

The sports they have dropped because they are not popular with the TV channels decide what sports are now involved not the IOC

I'm afraid the original Olympic spirt died long ago.

As has been said the 'worlds' now make more sence, people will watch what interests them

 

[Paul120]

I can see the Olympics if cancelled in 2021 being the end if it altogether, the IOC have said if it's canecelled again it wont be Tokyo next time, so who wants to take the risk of running it cost wise, and that the IOC now only think of it as how much money they can generate for themselves.

The sports they have dropped because they are not popular with the TV channels decide what sports are now involved not the IOC

I'm afraid the original Olympic spirt died long ago.

As has been said the 'worlds' now make more sence, people will watch what interests them

Yep they killed it with greed. IMO As soon as it was opened up to professional sport it quickly lost meaning and ultimately it's soul.