A can of worms!

[40UP]

Some can't help themselves....I was scoring a trap round at Rugby when I noticed a shooter on the line having difficulty breaking open a new Perazzi. To achieve this he was putting the gun back on his toe-pad to lever it open...even when he'd fired only one barrel. I spoke to him - he didn't get it.

 

[Salopian]

Harley,

For your information, it is a breech of CPSA rules to shoot at live quarry at a clayshooting ground.

Further more if the person you mention did not have permission to shoot pests, vermin, or game on the clayshoot land he could be prosecuted for a number of offences including Armed trespass. So he should have been reported to the management.

 

[Harley]

Salopian, I expressed my concerns and some to the grounds manager.

 

[IanS]

I seem to have gone over the top with my example of a disregard for safety. Not really an example for this forum, it was one glass of wine too many I think! My apologies.

 

[Hawkeye]

No apologies needed Ian,

 

[philpot]

I have been holding back before responding because I have seen someone killed by a shotgun at point blank range. I did in fact write a thread on this some months ago but the short version was that a guy swung through to shoot a live bird and took his brothers entire middle out. You have all seen on TV the created scenes of people being shot but let me tell you that it does not compare. To see huge volume of blood and bits of internal organs splattered around is something I would not wish anyone to see.

I had a very strict talking to from my gamekeeper grandfather and also the farmer who first allowed me to shoot on his land------this has stayed with me all my life.

I have also witnessed an auto go off through a marquee where refreshments were being served to other shooters, fortunatley just above their heads. This was a guy who had forgotton he had a cart still in the spout and when he dropped the gun barrels onto his shoulder, it went off.

Do I think training should be part of gaining a shotgun ticket------------Oh my god yes. Most of you have not had to witness the death I have described nor cleaned the mess up with water and so I can understand how you may find it to be over the top but I don't think you would had you seen what CAN happen.

Sorry to be responding in way but I thought it was relavent.

Phil

 

[Al-Nitro]

Wow, some of these posts are scary.

Some people just lack in respect and common sense.

 

[Will Hewland]

I do believe that the scope for such incidents is vastly higher at a game shoot. I have not shot game for a while now, but I will admit that I felt that I did a couple of unsafe thingson a game shoot (early days).

At a clay shoot, 90% of the problem is covered by well positioned cages and predictability of targets.

 

[Les53]

I seem to have gone over the top with my example of a disregard for safety. Not really an example for this forum, it was one glass of wine too many I think! My apologies.

Sorry Ian, but I don't think you went over the top at all. Have another glass of wine and carry on mate!

 

[IanS]

Thanks Les,

I intend to have some more tonight and where necessary, will endeavour to keep to the script.

 

[Les53]

Thanks Les,

I intend to have some more tonight and where necessary, will endeavour to keep to the script.

Nah!!! Forget the script, say it the way you feel it mate!

 

[Dog Tyred]

I have been holding back before responding because I have seen someone killed by a shotgun at point blank range. I did in fact write a thread on this some months ago but the short version was that a guy swung through to shoot a live bird and took his brothers entire middle out. You have all seen on TV the created scenes of people being shot but let me tell you that it does not compare. To see huge volume of blood and bits of internal organs splattered around is something I would not wish anyone to see.

I had a very strict talking to from my gamekeeper grandfather and also the farmer who first allowed me to shoot on his land------this has stayed with me all my life.

I have also witnessed an auto go off through a marquee where refreshments were being served to other shooters, fortunatley just above their heads. This was a guy who had forgotton he had a cart still in the spout and when he dropped the gun barrels onto his shoulder, it went off.

Do I think training should be part of gaining a shotgun ticket------------Oh my god yes. Most of you have not had to witness the death I have described nor cleaned the mess up with water and so I can understand how you may find it to be over the top but I don't think you would had you seen what CAN happen.

Sorry to be responding in way but I thought it was relavent.

Phil

Very sobering thoughts indeed.

Highlights the fact that guns are seriously dangerous and that safety is all our responsibility. Ignore dangerous practices at you own (and others) peril!!

Never been to a game shoot so cannot comment but I've seen some video footage of such events, with guns being waved in all directions which looks bloody scary to me.

I would be all in favour of all grounds ensuring that new faces are safety inducted prior to being allowed to sign on but the relaxed nature of many grounds means this would be difficult to implement, especially when a new face turns up with a regular. I guess there is an assumption that if someone turns up with a gun they know what they doing! Obviously not always the case based on some of the posts above. I've also encountered people walking behing me on a trap line with cartridges left in the chambers. A quiet word sorted it out.

Lets be careful out there!!

DT