Beretta Stock Height

[Dickyboy]

We are all different for sure but there not a man born of his own mother who fit those numbers

Well Ben I was AAA in sporting cpsa , so it works for me and I got there with an ultra xs that cost me £600 , and has a 60mm drop at heel

 

[k80ben]

Well Ben I was AAA in sporting cpsa , so it works for me and I got there with an ultra xs that cost me £600 , and has a 60mm drop at heel

Unfortunately that’s what people measure the success on. They’re are lots of AAA that don’t deserve it but pick the right shoots. I got around 30/40 guns a week make roughy 8-12 custom stocks a month and those figures wouldn’t work for anyone. Could u adapt to it in certain scenarios of course would it make u the best version of yourself no.

If I wear shoes that don’t fit me it doesn’t mean I can’t walk it just means it’s uncomfortable. But I’ll reach my destination all the same

Gun fitting is the same we can manipulate bad numbers like you claim you did but it doesn’t make it correct

 

[Dickyboy]

Unfortunately that’s what people measure the success on. They’re are lots of AAA that don’t deserve it but pick the right shoots. I got around 30/40 guns a week make roughy 8-12 custom stocks a month and those figures wouldn’t work for anyone. Could u adapt to it in certain scenarios of course would it make u the best version of yourself no.

If I wear shoes that don’t fit me it doesn’t mean I can’t walk it just means it’s uncomfortable. But I’ll reach my destination all the same

Gun fitting is the same we can manipulate bad numbers like you claim you did but it doesn’t make it correct

Well it’s correct for me , why do you feel the need to put everyone down because they don’t fit what you say , wow you are condescending

 

[k80ben]

Well it’s correct for me , why do you feel the need to put everyone down because they don’t fit what you say , wow you are condescending

It’s not condescending it’s educational. You maybe making it fit into a degree but the perfect fit those numbers will be miles out

 

[Freddypip]

I asked above to be sure but I think Ben's point is more to do with the difference between the two comb measurements (drop at comb & heel) and not so much the drop overall. As I understand it combs are getting more parallel so he might be 'comfortable' with 60mm at the heel but that's caused you to work around a steep comb which something more monte carlo-ish - I think it's called drop at monte - would deal with. I might be wrong however.

As I said above I like the 35/50 Beretta measurements but I have stacked the back up a little. There's still 10mm overall drop which works for me - it might not be right but it works for me. My face might sit over a third of the stock (max to min) so there no much change in practise.

 

[k80ben]

I asked above to be sure but I think Ben's point is more to do with the difference between the two comb measurements (drop at comb & heel) and not so much the drop overall. As I understand it combs are getting more parallel so he might be 'comfortable' with 60mm at the heel but that's caused you to work around a steep comb which something more monte carlo-ish - I think it's called drop at monte - would deal with. I might be wrong however.

As I said above I like the 35/50 Beretta measurements but I have stacked the back up a little. There's still 10mm overall drop which works for me - it might not be right but it works for me. My face might sit over a third of the stock (max to min) so there no much change in practise.

Morning

When u shoot parallel, above for a driven and below for a shot below the feet your gun will have a serous change in POI due to the 10mm of drop no one can hold the same head to stock relationship in all 3 positions hence the drop in most guns nowadays is outdated

 

[General Skanky]

This is intriguing.

I know gun fit is quite a topic.

I also shim my semi auto all the way down, and cast all the way to the right, and my eye sits perfectly down the rib.

I don't know what the actual measurement is, but it feels much better than the fit of my 694 sporter.

 

[Freddypip]

It's the bit that's hard to work out. I assume we need some drop because the angle of our head changes but how much . . . I also am mindful that we seem to shoot more sporting below our feet so the issue is not just pushing the back of the stock up but also dropping the front to match the measurement at the face ???

 

[k80ben]

It's the bit that's hard to work out. I assume we need some drop because the angle of our head changes but how much . . . I also am mindful that we seem to shoot more sporting below our feet so the issue is not just pushing the back of the stock up but also dropping the front to match the measurement at the face ???

I would say 4mm is perfect 7mm at max

 

[General Skanky]

Well one day when I get a proper gun fit I’ll no doubt find out my ‘sizes’ will be way different to what I think!

 

[Freddypip]

It took me a while to realise this, but none of us are normal.

It took me even longer to embrace it !!

 

[k80ben]

It took me a while to realise this, but none of us are normal.

It took me even longer to embrace it !!

Agreed yet standard gun fitting it’s give gets us all very close

 

[RJD]

Although my experience of gunfit is more sxs, there are definately different ways of achieving the same result but achieve the same outcome. Guns I have had fitted at Hollands my local stockers (one ex Purdey and one ex Watson) refused to do as they disagree so much with measurements…all four of my sxs are different measurements but feel the same to shoot and all pattern the same. There is no such thing as typical perfect fit, however there is such a thing as ‘ your gun doesn’t fit, buy a new one or pay me to fix it’..

 

[k80ben]

Although my experience of gunfit is more sxs, there are definately different ways of achieving the same result but achieve the same outcome. Guns I have had fitted at Hollands my local stockers (one ex Purdey and one ex Watson) refused to do as they disagree so much with measurements…all four of my sxs are different measurements but feel the same to shoot and all pattern the same. There is no such thing as typical perfect fit, however there is such a thing as ‘ your gun doesn’t fit, buy a new one or pay me to fix it’..

I would disagree wholeheartedly with this for a competition gun

 

[Westward]

all four of my sxs are different measurements but feel the same to shoot and all pattern the same.

What I can't figure out is why a Beretta with a 35/50 stock gives me a lower line of sight over the rib than a CG with a 35/50 stock... And I'm supposed to be an engineer!

 

[General Skanky]

What I can't figure out is why a Beretta with a 35/50 stock gives me a lower line of sight over the rib than a CG with a 35/50 stock... And I'm supposed to be an engineer!

Now the maths problem has expanded……

 

[DolphinCTC]

I'd like to know whats the point of drop on the comb? Obviously the butt fits on the shoulder and the cheek is generally higher up on the body so the slope effectively lifts the gun up towards the cheek but a montecarlo would do the same and allow a parallel comb. I have had a MR stock made which is a monte carlo but there is still a slope on the cheek piece of the stock. I am used to shooting generally whats regarded as a high comb so when I get hold of most sporters they are way too low, this includes Berrettas confirmed by a recent DT11 I handled.

 

[TRINITY]

The beretta B Fast adjustable stock allows you to jack up the rear peg higher than the front. I t is very easy to set your comb parallel . Infact you can even get the rear peg higher so the comb slopes slightly forward