Chokes

[Skeet UK]

To be fair. My Silver Pig 1, only came with flush chokes, so either way extended chokes were a must for me and the Mullers fitted the bill, for tangible reasons as well as the more subjective reasons.

 

[Jonny English]

I also have found that the Briley's are tighter than they should be.  My IC are a touch more open than Mod but only by a nats.  Out of interest I weighed my extended chokes for comparison to my Browning flush ones last night, to see how much extra weight extended chokes put at the muzzle. An IC browning flush stainless steel weighed 28 grams, the equivalent Briley extended weighed 40 grams, so 12 grams extra per choke for the extension. over two barrels its not far off an extra ounce of weight at the muzzle.

 

[Hamster]

I also have found that the Briley's are tighter than they should be.  My IC are a touch more open than Mod but only by a nats.  Out of interest I weighed my extended chokes for comparison to my Browning flush ones last night, to see how much extra weight extended chokes put at the muzzle. An IC browning flush stainless steel weighed 28 grams, the equivalent Briley extended weighed 40 grams, so 12 grams extra per choke for the extension. over two barrels its not far off an extra ounce of weight at the muzzle.

Only for the first shot  :haha:   :gamer:

 

[timps]

Yes I agree, it's just that nearly everyone seems to be using non marque chokes, and I was just wondered if anyone could provide a good reason. I am please with my browning chokes, they either shatter the clay or it goes sailing on by! There is never any chips or lumps, with any cartridge, so I'll stick with them.

[SIZE=11pt]The reasons for my choke choices were as follows:[/SIZE]

Browning Ultra XS: I wanted to shoot the same in both barrels and at the time the standard extended Midas chokes were expensive compared to Briley, two Briley were only £20 more than 1 Midas. Secondary the XS handled like a pig on a shovel with the heavy extended Midas chokes in and was hoping the ported Briley would be a lot lighter which they were. As said they patterned tighter and the weight difference was not worth the mess the ports made, but you live and learn and I was young and impressionable.

Beretta DT 10: I was offered a set of second hand Muller chokes  from a friend who had gone back to the dark side of Miroku ownership. Only reason I bought them was because of the hype and the fact I paid second hand price and could get my money back if they didn’t do it for me. I used them, had good scores and bad, decided to sell them on while the hype was still there and get my money back.

Teague flush chokes, I was offered a pair of Teague 3/8 flush chokes second hand off another friend. I like the look of flush or fixed choke guns more than extended so bought them for aesthetics alone. Shot with them and the breaks were good, the gun looked good so job done they are a keeper based on looks alone.

The only thing I have learnt is friends seem to approached me with their old tat for sale safe in the knowledge I will buy it regardless of whether I need it or not.

I also bought some S/H standard Beretta 3/8 extended chokes off the internet because they were cheap. Don’t ask me if they improve my shooting as they are only used to counterbalance my range bag from all the other second hand crap I have bought because it’s too cheap to miss.

[SIZE=11pt]I really [/SIZE]shouldn't[SIZE=11pt]  be left alone on a computer and a pay pal account. [/SIZE]

 

[Rosso]

:fie:  Rosso, I don't know who is the worst, you or the parrot?  :crazy:

Guru here it is.

 

[shootinguru]

:fie:  Rosso, I saw Cutts compensators on remmy's while you were scouring in your nappy :crazy:

 

[Oldblaster]

Can of worms question...............

Seriously doubt any aftermarkets are going to be THAT much better than the ones in your 725.

On hindsight you are absolutely right!

 

[Wonko the Sane]

On another forum, Neil Winston made what I thot was a telling point about barrel mods that easily covers aftermarket chokes as well.   If the makers really have the secret to improvement then they should know exactly what it is that they are doing to make it "better".  If that is so then they should be able to incorporate a set of  "non-better" attributes and make a perfectly fine looking tube, like the ones they suggest you replace, that consistently shoots like crap.

Wanna bet?

And on a perfectly subjective front - casual observation has provided me with the data that modern choke tube technology inserted in a 40yr old Perazzi doesn't break the targets any better than the 40yr old choke tube technology that came with it.... so much so that I have zero interest in exploring minutia with pattern analysis.

I mean, it's a shotgun.  Get over it

 

[7iain7]

I took some standard Browning invector plus ,some Briley & some Teague chokes to work to check run-out, concentricity, ovality & even internal profiles.
What I found was all were machined too excellent tolerances.
I found that Briley chokes have a different internal profile, end section is parallel which might be why they measure different when using a choke gauge.

 

[Les53]

I think there is far too much deliberation over chokes to be honest! 

 

[MJJ]

I think there is far too much deliberation over chokes to be honest! 

Indeed, I like my chokes like my wallet - tight. All this faffing around 1/4 for this 1/2 for that, does my head in. Stick to one choke and forget about it.

 

[Les53]

Indeed, I like my chokes like my wallet - tight. All this faffing around 1/4 for this 1/2 for that, does my head in. Stick to one choke and forget about it.

I take a similar angle on chokes, for ABT, UT and OT I use 1./2 and full, I should use 3/8 and 5/8 for DTL, not that I shoot DTL very often, but the gun normally just gets shot with 1/2 and full because I can't be bothered to bugger about and 1/2 and full are normally already in the gun! 

 

[ips]

All to technical and confusing for my tiny mind. Yet another thing to think about and indeed doubt.

 

[Sian]

I'm simple - open chokes on everything. I haven't learned to faff yet.

 

[Les53]

All to technical and confusing for my tiny mind. Yet another thing to think about and indeed doubt.

I just don't think about them Ian, that's how come I almost always have half and full in the tubes, that combination can kill just about ANY trap target I reckon! 

 

[ips]

I just don't think about them Ian, that's how come I almost always have half and full in the tubes, that combination can kill just about ANY trap target I reckon!

Agreed les. Or 3/4 full my prefered combo.

 

[westley]

We had an old Beretta 301 auto club gun with a 13" stock, the first of the multi choked variety with the 'drop in' type chokes, secured by an outside collar. One of our resident DTL  guys, a 32" Beretta Full/Full trap gun shooter, had a broken firing pin 5 birds into a round. I gave him the auto and he went on to kill the remaining 20 targets, some with the second barrel. When we finished he asked what the auto was choked, I removed the collar to reveal NO choke at all. We did not get any chokes when we bought the gun. His face was a picture. You sure learn a lot when you run a ground !

 

[Skeet UK]

I'm simple - open chokes on everything. I haven't learned to faff yet.

Try half/half at everything and watch your scores go up!

 

[Sian]

Try half/half at everything and watch your scores go up!

I'm not ready to take on the voices in my head which will rear their ugly heads once I start faffing. My scores are still going up, when they plateau maybe then

 

[chippy]

Try half/half at everything and watch your scores go up!

I,am sure it works for some, but it knocks 10 off my scores