Oh really!Dt easy for a good sporting shooter , it's just a simo pair of teal !!! Simples
Thank you Fred!!!!! ( I was wondering when you were going to show up and throw some proper light onto the subject mate!) :biggrin:Don't you think the above would be different if the other disciplines than OT were allowed two shots per target? [don't split hairs on fitasc] The reason that OT is the hardest is that it has 15 different speeds where ABT has one and OT has 20% central targets where ABT has 33%
Actually Fred.......I was talking to a fairly "senior" shooter yesterday regarding DTL, OT, ABT, UT. He has been shooting fast trap since the 1970's and is convinced that new blood is being put off of fast trap because there is no longer a "stepping stone" between DTL and UT/OT. In other words ABT has now become so fast that it is too hard for guys to progress to UT/OT via ABT, as was the case previously. Why on earth didn't they just leave ABT as it was? If we are not careful there will be fewer and fewer guys shooting OT and then even fewer grounds will offer it.......or even ABT if we are not very careful!!!!!Don't you think the above would be different if the other disciplines than OT were allowed two shots per target? [don't split hairs on fitasc] The reason that OT is the hardest is that it has 15 different speeds where ABT has one and OT has 20% central targets where ABT has 33%
Errrrrm.......and this is only a guess.......and probably quite wrong :wink:Actually Fred.......I was talking to a fairly "senior" shooter yesterday regarding DTL, OT, ABT, UT. He has been shooting fast trap since the 1970's and is convinced that new blood is being put off of fast trap because there is no longer a "stepping stone" between DTL and UT/OT. In other words ABT has now become so fast that it is too hard for guys to progress to UT/OT via ABT, as was the case previously. Why on earth didn't they just leave ABT as it was? If we are not careful there will be fewer and fewer guys shooting OT and then even fewer grounds will offer it.......or even ABT if we are not very careful!!!!!
Well Nic, I cannot believe that any trap shooter worth his salt would have authorised the butchery of ABT as we knew it! There is a rumour going around down here that ABT was altered so as to make it easier for people to shoot OT type targets at grounds without OT. In other words so that people with no OT ground in their area can get to practice regularly on something at a bit like OT without having to travel too far, as there are more ABT layouts than OT layouts. So is this for would be GB OT shooters who live in an area without an OT layout or what? Your guess is as good as mine, but if it's true it could kill fast trap in the UK eventually, let's face it we are heading that way already! This is NOT a way to encourage new blood into fast trap!!!!!Errrrrm.......and this is only a guess.......and probably quite wrong :wink:
But could it be anything to do with our governing body and no one left high up where the decisions are made.....being shooters....or know anything about trap????
God....I bet the staff roar with laughter at some of the things they see going on....but they have to keep their heads down and impliment what they are told to.
.......just wondering :wink:
I have no idea.Well Nic, I cannot believe that any trap shooter worth his salt would have authorised the butchery of ABT as we knew it! There is a rumour going around down here that ABT was altered so as to make it easier for people to shoot OT type targets at grounds without OT. In other words so that people with no OT ground in their area can get to practice regularly on something at a bit like OT without having to travel too far, as there are more ABT layouts than OT layouts. So is this for would be GB OT shooters who live in an area without an OT layout or what? Your guess is as good as mine, but if it's true it could kill fast trap in the UK eventually, let's face it we are heading that way already! This is NOT a way to encourage new blood into fast trap!!!!!
As far as I'm concerned,shooting has been in some sort of crisis for over 25 years in one way or another Nic! If it's not the anti's or the government it's our own governing bodies giving us trouble in one way or another! It seems however that English Sporting and DTL are flourishing somewhat from what I can see of things. We will never get the international disciplines to be popular if the powers that be insist on keep making them more difficult! Yes it's OK for the top/gifted boys, but most of us grass roots shooters and those coming into shooting are not at such a level and may never even attempt those disciplines at all if things carry on as they are!I have no idea.
It seems all shooting is in crisis at the minute...especially UT on the international circuit with the proposed changes and the acceptance of the UT Commissions resignations :sad:
GP at Beverly Ian???? Can't you find a doctor a bit closer to home mate? :biggrin:I am currently sycing myself up for the GP at Beverly at the weekend. I do hope we are given a fighting chance this time. Gulp
I am starting to think that we mere mortals that shoot OT must all be in need of a shrink!!!! Why on earth do we bother? Went to SC earlier this week......layout 6....right handers going right to the top of the bank......if the bank was not there they would have carried on flying!!!!!!!!! We must be mad Ian!!!!Very funny pal
Might need a shrink Sunday night if target are anything like ot targets that have been on offer thus far this year.
No one has yet convinced me that shooting these stupid fast sole destroying targets in dull old Blighty does anybody any good, even the Elite Internationals. It should be about confidence and keeping your head right, on regulation targets.Very funny pal
Might need a shrink Sunday night if target are anything like ot targets that have been on offer thus far this year.
I am starting to think that we mere mortals that shoot OT must all be in need of a shrink!!!! Why on earth do we bother? Went to SC earlier this week......layout 6....right handers going right to the top of the bank......if the bank was not there they would have carried on flying!!!!!!!!! We must be mad Ian!!!!
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