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At the end of the day its the shoulder to shoulder competition that counts when everyone is pretty much equal and the best person on the day wins.  If you want a national result then its a national competition.  The national ranking based on disparate shoots all round the country with some shooting grounds with great variety and others sticking to their home ground is a joke.  If someone wants to delude themselves to get into the top 20 then they have a problem and wont cut it in a serious shoulder to shoulder match away from home.  We all know this and must ignore these jokers.

As for sandbagging I think it goes on in every sport to some degree.  People manipulate golf handicaps so presumably the same goes on in clay shooting.  Prize money will always exacerbate the problem but even if you just shoot for honours it still happens.

In target shooting if you win your class you get promoted and shoot in the class above next time.  In the national competitions the top 10% get promoted and the bottom 10% get demoted.  Shoot organisers always reserve the right to reclassify shooters who shoot way above their declared average but it still happens.

 
I know a good shooter who used to shoot a lot of Skeet, but very rarely any registered events.

A few years ago he did one registered shoot and shot 100 straight, I do believe the only 100 straight he has ever shot before or since. He didn't shoot another registered all year so he ended up as "the best Skeet shooter in the country" with an average of 100%  :p

You can't tell me that isn't meaningless?

Whatever bakes yer biscuit I guess  :wacko:

 
I reckon u should have to shoot at least 10,000 targets at 20 grounds to be considered for the top 20. Then I might have a chance!

In all honestly the more grounds you shoot in sporting the better u become, it's all about different target presentation and backgrounds. Even in other disciplines the background can make the target look nearer or further.

There are people out there who throw there score to maintain there class, at the end of the day ur just kidding urself

 
10,000 is a bit dramatic!!! 5,000 be ok at least give us one shoot a weekend lads a chance ha ha !!

Got to agree tho try to shoot as many as possible not allways easy when you closest reg shoot is a 150 miles round trip!!

 
Yes, only about 6000, 4800 of whom shoot sporting. I forget the figure, but its even lower for those shooting over 300 per year..

 
Depends on discipline only a couple of hundred ot reg shooters prob way less than 100 shoot more than 1 reg per year. Be very difficult to shoot more than 1000 reg targets at more than 3 grounds in ot due to the lack of availability.

 
I reckon u should have to shoot at least 10,000 targets at 20 grounds to be considered for the top 20. Then I might have a chance!

In all honestly the more grounds you shoot in sporting the better u become, it's all about different target presentation and backgrounds. Even in other disciplines the background can make the target look nearer or further.

There are people out there who throw there score to maintain there class, at the end of the day ur just kidding urself
Not sure if you're joking but 10,000 ? I doubt there are even 20 people who shoot that many, the results would look even more skewed then surely as it'll be more about who can spare the time and cash ?

 
Only 1 person shot over 10000 reg ESP targets (guess who ^^^) and only 10 shot over 7000 :)  what does have to be noted though is out of those 10 the best raw to adjusted average is Chris, who shot 11 odd thousand @ 91.80 raw and 91.90 adjusted. Only having 100 targets dropped is phenomenal when shooting that many targets.

Excellent consistency Chris! :D  

 
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