excess lead

[schmokinn]

I have several guns which when cleaning require a quick scrub through with a brush a mild soak with cleaner oil and a wipe through to be clean.

the thing is my Ultra XS Titanium takes a good 10-15 minutes with a tornado brush to remove lead deposits and to my mind there is a lot, several piles of the stuff on the table may only be a few grams in total but relative to other guns it is a massive amount.

I spoke to my gunsmith about it and he suggested it was to do with the hardness/lack of Antimony in the shot but it seems to make no discernible difference whether it is nothing or 5%.

does anybody else have this issue or have any idea why?

   cheers Schmokinn

 

[Simonix]

Maybe it's more to do with the particular shape of the forcing cones in your Browning that cause more lead fouling than on your other guns?

 

[schmokinn]

Thats what i thought but it seems so vastly different and i wondered if anybody had the same experience?

must be some people on here with the same gun?

 

[ips]

Sell it buy a beretta job done.

 

[schmokinn]

Sell it buy a beretta job done.

what like the Beretta i already have that has been back to gmk several times and had the barrel replaced twice vs the several Brownings i already have and no problems in years...i will immediately rush out and by another on your advice

 

[ips]

I detect some animosity towards beretta

 

[ips]

Seriously though its a strange one that's for sure. The only time in 17 years i have had to use anything other than a mop was the sporting shoot with Phil after using fibre i blame Phil but paid him back by giving him the remainder of said fibre things. Ha.

 

[schmokinn]

would have bought a 692 if i hadn't seen so many people having issues and the fact my A400 has spent more time at gmk than in my hands.

i actuall quite like them but i am trying to get away from the magpie effect that new guns seem to have on me.

doesn't seem to make any difference fibre/plastic high or low Antimony it is in the forcing cone area i think,covers about 3-4 inches in front of the chamber tried to find an image of the cross section but to no avail).

it's just i have never heard it mentioned before so just wondered if it was an issue with my particular gun?

 

[ips]

Be interesting to follow the thread see if same gun owner has same problem.

 

[ExSCA]

Why did the barrels get replaced on your Beretta?

 

[Rosso]

I detect some animosity towards beretta

Only broken ones of which there appears to be many.

 

[RobertBeard]

Can we identify a point in time when Beretta quality took a turn for the worse?

Are there any happy 692 or DT11 owners out there?

I have a 686 e but its not seen a lot of use yet.

I also have a Silver Pigeon 1 sporter for ladies/youngsters which is only 2 years old.

Strikes me that they are starting to trade on their past reputation rather than current form!

 

[Will Hewland]

I think DT11s are working fine? Less brand, more model could be the issue..

 

[Rosso]

DT 10 top locking lever bolts. Teflon coming off causing sticking top levers

Similar to SO but not as robust.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Weird I have an Ultra XTR and it never needed cleaning just a run through with a jag and patch then a oily mop job done!

 

[schmokinn]

barrels replaced due to poor machining twice....enough about bloody Beretta's and back to the Browning please

 

[schmokinn]

Weird I have an Ultra XTR and it never needed cleaning just a run through with a jag and patch then a oily mop job done!

thanks for the reply though i think your earlier gun has different barrels to the later prestige which i believe have the same as mine.

glad to here that its easy to clean....wish mine was 

  Schmokinn

 

[MikeB]

[SIZE=medium]I have a B525 and find if I use Eley cartridges I suffer the same problem. I can’t comment on Eley cartridges loaded with plastic wads as I have to use fibre wads where I shoot. The combination of 3” chambers and back bored barrels plus fibre wads may also allow the hot gasses to leak past and possibly cause the fouling. A Payne Galloway chamber brush and battery drill was the only way to remove the fouling. Since I changed to another make of cartridge (Evo’s), cleaning has been made alot easier.  Very little residue is left in the barrels.[/SIZE]

 

[Will Hewland]

I have a B525 and find if I use Eley cartridges I suffer the same problem. I can’t comment on Eley cartridges loaded with plastic wads as I have to use fibre wads where I shoot. The combination of 3” chambers and back bored barrels plus fibre wads may also allow the hot gasses to leak past and possibly cause the fouling. A Payne Galloway chamber brush and battery drill was the only way to remove the fouling. Since I changed to another make of cartridge (Evo’s), cleaning has been made alot easier.  Very little residue is left in the barrels.

Eley plas also hideous. Avoid.