Eye dominance in women

[ips]

On this occasion i feel compelled to defend nicola (not that she needs my help to do so but i am a gentleman ) nicola was merely voicing her knowledge of many years knowing many lady shooters (who may or may not have been feminist ) there was also lots of smiles to indicate on further posts that any reference to feminists was all meant in jest (i think) i could be wrong of course and nicola may indeed be a raving feminist, i dont really mind as i like all women. Not all like me according to the thankfully now ex Mrs looney i mean ex Mrs ips

 

[teepee1234]

Why is it perceived as a bad thing that the majority of women are left-eye dominant?  I really don't understand.

(and before the next tranche of rants, I'm not interested in any views on feminists, feminism, or any comments pertaining to the sexes - I really would like to know why)

 

[ips]

It isnt good for any right handed shooter to be left eye dominant man woman or feminist.

 

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Why is it perceived as a bad thing that the majority of women are left-eye dominant?  I really don't understand.

(and before the next tranche of rants, I'm not interested in any views on feminists, feminism, or any comments pertaining to the sexes - I really would like to know why)

They are not :smile: that is the point.

The survey(s) was probably carried out by men like the one who joined Liz's husbands lesson. :laugh:

 

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On this occasion i feel compelled to defend nicola (not that she needs my help to do so but i am a gentleman ) nicola was merely voicing her knowledge of many years knowing many lady shooters (who may or may not have been feminist ) there was also lots of smiles to indicate on further posts that any reference to feminists was all meant in jest (i think) i could be wrong of course and nicola may indeed be a raving feminist, i dont really mind as i like all women. Not all like me according to the thankfully now ex Mrs looney i mean ex Mrs ips

Thank you sweetie. I can confirm for the record that I am not a feminist and i am not gay :laugh: although i do have the dodgy crew cut now......... :smile:

 

[Ray]

Don't know about being left eye dominant, my one at home can spot a £ note from a mile away with both eyes..  :hi:  

 

[ehb102]

http://www.perceptionweb.com/abstract.cgi?id=v040240

Now, that's good data. Thank you. If I'm reading the abstract correctly, less than a fifth of either gender have left-eye dominance, although women have slightly more chance of being left-eye dominant. Soi the "70% of women are left eye dominant" is not shown in this paper. 

 

[Jan Powell]

Back to the subject, there is a slightly greater proportion of left eye dominant females. Cross eye dominance is also much more common amongst women.

Sadly, it's not as simple as this though. Eye dominance in relation to shooting sports is complicated for reasons that can't be explained in sufficient detail here.

 

[teepee1234]

They are not :smile: that is the point.

The survey(s) was probably carried out by men like the one who joined Liz's husbands lesson. :laugh:

And my point seems to have been missed.  I don't care whether they are or they aren't.  My question was why is it perceived to be a bad thing?  A R/H shooter being left eye dominant is a problem, no doubt about that, but why get het up because someone thinks that someone else thinks it's a problem??  I still don't understand

And how can the sex of the writer be determined?  Why does it have to be a man?  Probably carried out by men?  That's just nonsensical sexist bulls**t.

(shaking my head in despair for the human race)

 

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Speak to westward....he brought sex, lesbians feminists into it.

Actually I never think of 'sex' of the person when i do an eye test. You just get on with it.

:smile:

 

[Hamster]

My question was why is it perceived to be a bad thing?  A R/H shooter being left eye dominant is a problem, no doubt about that, but why get het up because someone thinks that someone else thinks it's a problem??  I still don't understand

Not nekkekkarily, agreed it is portrayed as such by gun writers but as stated before on other threads I happen to be right handed and left eye dominant yet shoot off the right shoulder with both eyes open and I have known more than a few similar cases over the years. It is a complex thing and my view is that when cross dominance was spotted early writers quickly formed concrete, yet wrong views which then entered the shooting folklore as established fact.

:acute:  Whether women do happen to be statistically more susceptible to wrong eye issues is little more than a curiosity as there are plenty of ways to combat it.

 

[ehb102]

Back to the subject, there is a slightly greater proportion of left eye dominant females.

You mean a greater proportion of women have left eye dominance than men? Or do you mean that a greater proportion of women are left eye dominant than are right eye dominant? The first it what the research says, the second is what Internet articles without research data claim.

 

[Fuzrat]

Quite honestly its an irrelevant statistic, true or not. A coach who is any good will test a new shooter for dominance and come up with a plan early on to get round any left eye right hand issues or vice versa.

RE gun down for ample chested ladies, Mrs Fuz (who has an impressive bosom) was given a good tip by one of the lady refs at a westfield fitasc. Instead of holding the butt against the body to the side of the chest as us blokes tend to, rest it against the aforementioned bosom out in front under the fitasc line. Then it is a simple slide up and in to the shoulder, made it so much easier for her for "proper" gun down (game/live stuff) it is a push out to clear the boob then back to where the fitasc line would be and the slide up and in again

Got a picture somewhere of her in her fitasc ready pose that I will dig out and post if it will help? 

 

[Salopian]

Fuz was the photo taken the other night when you were adjusting pitch?

I can't wait to see the photos.

 

[Fuzrat]

Unfortunately not  

 

[Fuzrat]

The arm is kind of blocking the bit we need to see but you can probably get the gist

 

[PhilS]

Now, that's good data. Thank you. If I'm reading the abstract correctly, less than a fifth of either gender have left-eye dominance, although women have slightly more chance of being left-eye dominant. Soi the "70% of women are left eye dominant" is not shown in this paper. 

That paper says 19% of men and 16% of women - that is a negligible difference over the populus.

Stuff & nonsense anyway.  Just pull the bloody trigger........ :hunter:   :hunter: :hunter:  

 

[ehb102]

The arm is kind of blocking the bit we need to see but you can probably get the gist

Thanks, that's useful. 

The arm is kind of blocking the bit we need to see but you can probably get the gist

 

[watchman]

Kimberley rhode is a good example

 

[psych4shooting]

The world of forums seems a weird place and yes I am fully aware of the humour, but perfectly good threads are useless after about 4 or 5 comments, as people go off on tangents - if that is what people want to do then so be it, but just sometimes it would be great if topics remained to the point, so that someone genuinely interested could find the answer easily within the thread. I am probably having a bad hair day, so please excuse me, but this topic is a really interesting one and as a previous thread made mention it can`t be answered in a quick way.

In my experience there is no evidence or research that maintains anything different between the sexes, but there is research that shows people`s eyes change at certain times in their life and also the changes in this are different for men and women, much to do with teenage hormones and hormone change through age. But there is nothing that takes into account cross dominance within this.