green pad fitting

[jwpzx9r]

Ok so I have been thinking for a little while that my stock is very slightly too long , my previous LOP on my Browning was 375mm and it always felt really good the Perazzi is 380mm . I was thinking that I could reduce the LOP by fitting a slightly thinner pad to my stock... is this a reasonable way of doing this? The second question is. If this is a good way of doing the job would fitting a green pad be the way to go? And further if the green pad is a goer would it be easy to fit yourself or is it a job for the gunsmith? I am pretty handy in the workshop but I don't want to ruin my stock for the sake of the cost of fitting.

 

[Jan Powell]

Forget the green pad (unless you want one for aesthetic reasons). Unlike other measurements length of pull isn't critical providing it's not way too short or long. 5mm is such a small amount it will make no difference to your performance.

 

[Will Hewland]

I would argue that with sporting, LOP is a bit more critical.. Not hugely, but more than with just shooting straight away targets. Green pads can be purchased, scribed around, sent back and returned finished for a price..

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

I would argue that with sporting, LOP is a bit more critical.. Not hugely, but more than with just shooting straight away targets. Green pads can be purchased, scribed around, sent back and returned finished for a price..

+1 And green pads are a worth while addition although as Will said better of getting it ground to fit as can be a bit difficult for DIY, fitted my own but was tricky where as my wifes was done by Malcolm Jenkins a superb job.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Forget the green pad (unless you want one for aesthetic reasons). Unlike other measurements length of pull isn't critical providing it's not way too short or long. 5mm is such a small amount it will make no difference to your performance.

Well that has saved me time and money! I don't have any issues re recoil but thought that it would be easy to fit a green pad simply because they are good quality and easy to buy. But if the opinion is that for a trap shooter LOP is not critical over +/- 5mm no need to worry

To be honest I have shot well with the gun just the way it is and never questioned it but hit a bumpy patch and desperately looking for answers... Now I know that the LOP is 5mm longer than the Browning and went off on a "thinking trail" instead of just doing the obvious and concentrating on the job.

 

[Jan Powell]

5mm in any discipline will, in my opinion, make no discernible difference to your shooting performance. Such a small alteration could be easily offset with a change of clothes!

Measurements such as comb height and cast are non negotiable. Length of pull on the other hand is down to the shooter providing it's not too extreme either way.

 

[dashman1]

Correct

 

[westley]

Talking about 'on the other hand' try pulling your leading hand back a touch on the forend, this can sometimes be a temporary quick fix if you think the stock is too long.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Thanks for the advice. The gun I shot before the Perazzi was a Browning Ultra XTR it had 375mm LOP . I am just looking for reasons for my loss of form and it is not down to the gun all of a sudden... that is idiotic desperation on my part. I have and am doing something different and I think it is purely a lack of really concentrating on the target.

 

[VicW]

As Jan says 5mm is nothing and could be accounted for by going from winter shooting clothes to summer ones. I always added a recoil pad to my shooting jacket in the summer to make up for the fewer clothes.

Every shooter goes through a bad patch in the same way as they have 'purple' patches and thousands of those who have a bad patch immediately look for something to blame and that 'something' is nearly always the gun.

Stick with it.

Vic.

 

[Wonko the Sane]

I could be wrong on this but over time I've noticed that there are effectively two LOP things.  One is the trigger to the grip and the other is the grip to the pad.  Stocks that have the same overall LOP can feel very different length wise because of that.  I noticed this most pointedly when I went to Yardley's suggestion that the stock should be no longer than what it takes to keep from nose/thumb contact and I cut a couple to meet that criteria and they ended up over 1/2" different in length and both felt fine.  And the shortened stocks def felt better overall with a more in-the-gun kinda feel.

So that is purely personally subjective and YMMV but it works for me.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Here is a snap of my head position prior to taking a shot.

 

[Jan Powell]

My observations for what they're worth...

Eyes are nice and level, gun position in the shoulder is fine. Cheek is far forward on the comb but plenty prefer this so if it works for you that's fine.

Personally, I would try to lower your hand on the grip a little if you can so that you pull the trigger straight back with the pad of the finger. This will also serve to lower your thumb away from the eye and ease the strain on your wrist.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Thanks Jan I will try that out if the grip allows this. I have big'ish hands don't know if it will be easy.

 

[Will Hewland]

My observations for what they're worth...

Eyes are nice and level, gun position in the shoulder is fine. Cheek is far forward on the comb but plenty prefer this so if it works for you that's fine.

Personally, I would try to lower your hand on the grip a little if you can so that you pull the trigger straight back with the pad of the finger. This will also serve to lower your thumb away from the eye and ease the strain on your wrist.

Agree with Jan. I would also try not putting your head as far forward as it is fairly extreme. You almost look off the wood. I know some Tarpies do this, but your eyes must be straining upward at that angle too.

 

[maddmatt]

Green pads are very easy to fit and all you need is, electrical tape, a belt sander and a large vice. Secure the sander in the vice so the sanding part is vertical, use a medium to fine belt, screw the pad to your stock, apply tape to the stock, pad end, bit like masking when decorating, wrap the tape round the stock until you have at least three layers and have around two inch width.

The tape stops accidental damage to the stock and allows you to get a close finish, it sounds hard but it really isn't, your belt sander needs that little button that allows it to run without you pressing the trigger, hold the stock firmly and start to sand the pad following the profile of the stock.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Yes I am well forward on the gun just a habit, not off the timber though. I think a lot of trap shooters end up with a similar sort of head position.

 

[PhilS]

Personally John, I think the problem is with your cap.......... wrong colour.



Ok, I'll get my coat

 

[balltrap]

In length of pull 5mm will make no difference at all.......... your summer / winter clothing will make a bigger difference!