Good point. I can't get on with 680 Beretta's. They kick me like a mule on speed and the grip radius is too small and the nose of the comb is too far forward to get a comfortable grip and as Lloyd says it all feels too cramped. Infact much of what he say's I can relate to.Beretta without major alteration tend to suit people with shorter stature, Browning / Miroku the reverse. I started out with an SP1. It fitted me well and I liked it. I'm sure I'd be shooting as well with it now as I am with the gun I currently use if I had kept it. If it fits and the balance is suits you then it's whats behind the gun that matters most.
My husband likes Brownings. He had a Citori and now has a 725. I've mounted it and it just feels wrong. My index finger barely reaches the trigger. For me, it'd be a horrible gun, for him it's perfect. I've seen him try my DT10, he can shoot it, but he looks all cramped and hunched up when he does it.Good point. I can't get on with 680 Beretta's. They kick me like a mule on speed and the grip radius is too small and the nose of the comb is too far forward to get a comfortable grip and as Lloyd says it all feels too cramped. Infact much of what he say's I can relate to.
Stock shape and weight can transform a gun from a dead piece of plank to a joy to shoot.
Miroku / Brownings just fit me and feel better. If your of a different build then the opposite will be true.
I guess we may be of similar build
Fundimentally though there's nothing wrong with them so I wouldn't be put off buying one or selling one if it felt right.
WOW I am glad those pictures were not on You-Tube !Wow you really didn't like that gun at all did you Lloyd. Thanks for the honest review though, like ips said its hard to find a bad review about this gun on the web. i mounted one in Malmo a few weeks back and it felt horrible.
I think the short answer would be no ipsstill no answer to my question. Does anyone know who the gentleman is and what his background is. ??
Lloyd put up an intro video on his you tube channel when he started these video's. He's an everyday shooter just expressing his opinions, and he's using the guns of Bywell shooting ground.still no answer to my question. Does anyone know who the gentleman is and what his background is. ??
Hi guys, to respond to this I started shooting clays when I was 14, stopped when I was 18 as I moved over to Police / Service / Practical pistol, I was a qualified RCO and Armourer back then. In 1997 that stopped and I took a break from shooting sports. In 2008 I started Target and Field archery and at my peak in 2014 I was seeded 29th in the UK. A combination of work and injury forced a retirement from archery however I still coach and have coached archers up to World Championship status (well, one archer).agree with cockney, gun reviews in fact any review is subjective.
I asked in earlier thread (out of interest no specific reason) what Lloyds shooting background is. It would hold more credence if we knew.
Benelli Rafaello Supersport.Well I enjoy your videos :smile: I can't wait to see the semi review. Which model is it?
Apologies, having re-watched it you do indeed shoulder the SS for a few seconds but still maintain that if you say at the outset that you are comparing the two then the two need to be shown side by side in more detail with particular focus on the parts that differ. I also find it odd that you think people don't buy £12k worth of gun for the wood ! They most definitely do when spending that kind of money. This is a public membership forum where you have chosen to display your videos, Youtube too is a public forum where people post both negative as well as positive feedback, being able to absorb the good and the bad is the minimum requirement I'm afraid, I am very much like you in fact when you say you speak as you find, merely suggesting that your relative inexperience compared to other such videos I have watched comes across. I will make a point of not watching anymore though but hopefully we can remain forum friends.@Hamster I am not sure if you have watched the entire video but I do in fact pull out the SS about 2/3rds of the way in. I did have a segment comparing the 2 guns on the bench but I cut it as it was too long.
I would argue that one does not buy a Krieghoff for the timber, and since most owners seem to swap wood like the rest of us change socks I didn't mention that.
As to the rest of your points in this post and others, I am one guy doing this off my own back in my spare time and I am doing as much as I can. If I had time to rope other people in and do interviews that would be great but I just don't. I am not a professional broadcaster, nor have I had any training in journalism, I work in IT.
Youtube is a platform for amateurs and whilst the bar is pretty high these days for user created content I can only do my best and as I say, in the main folk seem to be enjoying it.
Looking back through this thread it seems pretty clear my videos are not for you, just wondering: Why you are still watching?
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