Gun safe position

[GlenPresley]

What happens if you live in a caravan?

 

[TobyM]

What happens if you live in a caravan?

Don't bother with a certificate!

 

[gundog]

If anyone is up for the record inspection time for cabinets and guns, I just may have it at 4 and a half hours. It was a nightmare of an inspection by a complete knob.

 

[** Pending Removal **]

Poor thing!!

I have growled at a few in my time, especially when they turn around and knock the stock hard into a work surface saying ooops!!

Now they just draw lots to see who gets the job of coming to mine. It is like breaking in a hoss......we know each other now.....and they always bend over backwards to help. Mine runs out in 2nd week October so I asked for an early renewal as we still have overseas competitions to finish the year. They rang to arrange a time to come the following day, the meeting took about 10mins and I got the renewals 3 days later. Top bobbins!! Still have to carry both, because the new ones start when the old ones run out.

That is what I call service!!

 

[ips]

Very true. There is a story, not sure how true it is, that an FLO made an impromptu visit to a house. The certificate holder was out, but the wife was home. The wife tells the FLO that her husband is not home, but offers the key to check the cabinet and guns...oh dear... Lost his guns as well as other repercutions.

As Nicola says, the Law states that you have to take reasonable precautions to prevent unlawful access to the guns etc.

A friend of mine built a room on his house, one security door no windows. It is his gun and reloading room and all the guns simply sit in racks, because the entire room is as secure as one could reasonably make it.

Yes many years ago during one of my 5 yearly inspections the firearms chap (propper firearms responce chap came full body armour etc etc bit over the top I thought) asked mrs ips to get the keys for him, luckily she didnt know were they were but goes to show that they may well try and catch you out and so they should cos as previously stated by my learned friend NO ONE should know were your keys are.

 

[gundog]

My bloody awful experience was probably two or three tickets ago and watching someone trying to open the barrel of a muzzle loading flintlock shotgun was worthy of a candid camera stunt. Sadly it wasn't one. Since then I haven't had any problems. In fact my last visit was by an enquiry officer that actually shoots and was a joy to behold, shame it took him 3 months to get there though.

 

[Hamster]

According to all good filums there be demons in a decent cellar so damp or not I have no intention of going in there unarmed.

 

[ips]

Hamster

Agreed, I have never had a cellar and wouldnt want one as I have allways thought it would freak me out.

 

[irish1759]

I love my cellar, we're else can I store over 100 bottles of wine...

 

[Skeet UK]

According to all good filums there be demons in a decent cellar so damp or not I have no intention of going in there unarmed.

I was once working in a 14c house, when some builders uncovered a second cellar.

We went for a mooch...not much down there apart from a single wooden chair...large chair...very musty, few bits of old crap on the floor...creapy as fcuk, considering nobody had been in there for a good couple of hundred years, if not more.

It was built under a slightly later Orangery, and they had built a tunnel to it.

 

[Richard V]

but they will accept those lockable clamp things that fix the gun onto the rafters in the loft.

Check with the FEO on that, some areas do, some don't. I know mine doesn't (even though it says that gun clamps are okay on the department's guidence book) when I pointed that out to my FEO he simply said "well I don't know why thats on there, we haven't accepted clamps as suitable gun storage for 15 years"

 

[** Pending Removal **]

Check with the FEO on that, some areas do, some don't. I know mine doesn't (even though it says that gun clamps are okay on the department's guidence book) when I pointed that out to my FEO he simply said "well I don't know why thats on there, we haven't accepted clamps as suitable gun storage for 15 years"

And that is an example of police overstepping the law. You should let BSSC know about it.

 

[Richard V]

And that is an example of police overstepping the law. You should let BSSC know about it.

I don't know what good that will do TBH. From what I understand the home office guidelines are just that, guidelines, and if various firearms acts states that the gun must be stored suitably that it sounds like the police are free to interprete what suitably means (unless you take them to court).

Ofcourse, I might be talking compete rubbish being a newbie to the sport, and I should complain, but I store it in a cabinet now and got my ticket so I can't see what good it will do.

 

[** Pending Removal **]

Never mind Rich.

For your info....BSSC are the ones that protect all our rights with regard to the Firearms Act. They are on to any breach like lightening and have serious political connections. Not all battles can be won, but treading water is better than going backwards.

 

[Hamster]

This is one of those situations where truth and reality are miles apart. In truth there are no police powers to insist on a gun cabinet, in reality you're on a looser trying to store it anywhere else and to be honest I think it's the least you can do to store the things in a locked steel cabinet.

 

[blaser f3]

According to all good filums there be demons in a decent cellar so damp or not I have no intention of going in there unarmed.

It's well known in the world off film's to enter a damp ,dark cellar ,you have to be female aged 18 -25 and only wearing skimpy underwear .....so why would you ever consider going down there!!!

 

[Skeet UK]

It's well known in the world off film's to enter a damp ,dark cellar ,you have to be female aged 18 -25 and only wearing skimpy underwear .....so why would you ever consider going down there!!!

Considering the above to be true, then it stands to reason, that at any given point, there will be cellars around the world with the aforementioned females within them. Therefore, any opportunity presented to a red blooded male, to explore a cellar, should be seized.

 

[ips]

It's well known in the world off film's to enter a damp ,dark cellar ,you have to be female aged 18 -25 and only wearing skimpy underwear .....so why would you ever consider going down there!!!

Wow ... what kind of films do you watch

 

[Richard V]

Never mind Rich.

For your info....BSSC are the ones that protect all our rights with regard to the Firearms Act. They are on to any breach like lightening and have serious political connections. Not all battles can be won, but treading water is better than going backwards.

I diddn't know what the BSSC was until your post Nicola (I had to bingle it!). I was well aware of BASC, CPSA and NRA however I thought that they were the main organisations and thats it

This is one of those situations where truth and reality are miles apart. In truth there are no police powers to insist on a gun cabinet, in reality you're on a looser trying to store it anywhere else and to be honest I think it's the least you can do to store the things in a locked steel cabinet.

Indeed, at the end of the day the FEO creates a file on you, and advises the chief of police wheather to sign your licence or not. FEO's need some appeasing and if you piss them off then they won't be happy. Yes you can go to court to appeal their decision but is it worth it for the sake of getting a cabinet? Maybe I've got no backbone? :.:

 

[Westward]

Hamster has a good point. The libertarian in me intensely dislikes Chief Police Officers making and enforcing quasi legal rules that they are simply not empowered to make and which in some cases such as Kettling are patently illegal. But they'll go on doing it at least until the new elected commissioners get properly established and functioning. So when it comes to my SGC I'm not going to rock the boat.

As it happens I think a steel cabinet is the best form of secure storage and I'd use one even if the Bill didn't "prefer" them.