Miroku mk38 vs ££££

[Oldblaster]

I agree with Westly, it can be a long haul to the "perfect gun" you need time to settle into your shooting style, we all shoot differently. A reasonable priced secondhand gun is a good start, if it feels right, is more important than the make at the moment. 1/4 & 1/2 choke should do it, but multi choke is best. Most of all enjoy!

 

[westley]

I really fail to understand this trigger thing with Miroku shotguns. Either their owners are using their 'tickling' finger or have no sense of touch whatsoever. I swap from an auto (391 or 303) to my side by side, to my Mirook and then a Yildiz 20 bore. Each trigger is different but it does not present any problem to me. After a few shots I soon get the 'feel' for that particular gun. The only time that I would consider having any trigger 'fettled' is if it was too heavy or too light. 3 1/2  to 4 lbs I find suits most people, but there are always exceptions. Unless the trigger is partcularly bad, then leave the damned thing alone. It will never be a Perazzi trigger, but perhaps that is no bad thing.

 

[Hamster]

I really fail to understand this trigger thing with Miroku shotguns. Either their owners are using their 'tickling' finger or have no sense of touch whatsoever. I swap from an auto (391 or 303) to my side by side, to my Mirook and then a Yildiz 20 bore. Each trigger is different but it does not present any problem to me. After a few shots I soon get the 'feel' for that particular gun. The only time that I would consider having any trigger 'fettled' is if it was too heavy or too light. 3 1/2  to 4 lbs I find suits most people, but there are always exceptions. Unless the trigger is partcularly bad, then leave the damned thing alone. It will never be a Perazzi trigger, but perhaps that is no bad thing.

Agreed, rifles need a good trigger, shotguns generally have pretty acceptable ones and the few Browning/Mirooks I've had over the years never caused me any real hassle.

 

[clarkeyk80]

I suppose it depends if you have soft delicate skin prone to blistering!!! chequred or smooth triggers will be the next debate!!!!  just shove some shells in and pull the thing.... 

 

[RobertBeard]

I don't disbelieve any of this but if they tried a stunt like that with me they would know about it, I wouldn't hesitate to send them a stern solicitors letter demanding that the warranty work be done plus reimbursements for cost of said letter.

So do they think that you shouldn't adjust the stock to fit until out of warranty?

Got to be a try on and worth pursuing.

Make sure you read the warranty terms first before engaging a lawyer!

 

[Wonko the Sane]

All I can really contribute here, thanks to Perazzi utilization, is that in the past (pre-Perazzi) I found the sow's ear/silk purse avenue to be not all that satisfying in action.  And WAY not satisfying when it came time to go to the next gun.

just sayin' ...............................

 

[Hamster]

So do they think that you shouldn't adjust the stock to fit until out of warranty?

Got to be a try on and worth pursuing.

Make sure you read the warranty terms first before engaging a lawyer!

Their warranty terms could mention they have a right to repossess your abode if you engage the services of a solicitor against them but it won't hold up, all manufactured items are required to have a reasonable period of warranty, a year is customary but "not fit for purpose" means you can stretch this quite comfortably for certain items and it could easily be argued guns could fall into that.

 

[Salopian]

There really is no short cut to buying a gun that suits your needs and ambition.

An indisputable fact is that a Miroku MK38 or a 3800 is probably a far better gun than any of us would ever need, well capable of winning any shooting competition in the right hands.

A grade 1 MK38 New would probably cost you £1400

Any other brand, New will cost considerably more, will you shoot considerably better? I seriously doubt it . But you will have fun and frustration in doing it.

 

[jwpzx9r]

A grade 1 MK38 New would probably cost you £1400

Any other brand, New will cost considerably more, will you shoot considerably better? I seriously doubt it . But you will have fun and frustration in doing it

Well when applied to me you are most definitely correct BUT it would be a very strange world if everybody bought something that was based purely on our ability to use it. I bought my P second hand and it had been well looked after but the pleasure I get from shooting it is great and to me that is a very big part of the equation. I have no doubt there are those who derive their own particular pleasure of shooting "lesser guns" very well as a way of saying I don't need a P gun to shoot well and that is fine but think of what they are missing out on ... shooting well and using a P gun to do it, something every trap shooter can identify with!

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Going to edit this to say that using the P gun my shooting has improved to a great extent and indeed has been cheap to see the increase in my score in real terms going from almost static 75% up to 85% and beyond at times.

 

[HDAV]

Be carefull altering a brand new gun, Browning have started refusing warrenty work on any gun that has been altered in any shape or form. I've just sent my 525 away to have a loose forend pin fixed, the dealer even took off my Isis pad and put a Browning one back on incase it got turned away. They had a brand new MK38 turned away with a problem because it had teauge chokes retro fitted.

I thought the warranty was rather specific to the action and excluded lots of other bits...... Regardless under UK law contract is with the retailer not the manufacturer and as such must be "fit for purpose" and "last a reasonable length of time"

Really not sure I'd go down the expensive as 'fook' off the peg gun as it'll need fitted anyway, as for engraving &etc, I'm after a tool to break clays not work of art but that's just personal preference and we're all different.

Way I'll be going (probably next year) with gun no.3, is to buy a basic B525 and have it heavily modified which will cost more than the donor gun but I will end up with exactly what I'm after for under 3k.

Most use the MK38 as the donor as its cheaper

http://www.brierleyguns.com/brierley_bloxham/brierley_blox.php

This sort of thing came up at the shooting club today.... everyone had owned and regretted selling a miroku or still owned it one gun had been owned by 3 of the people at the table(8 in total) and the 2 who sold it both said told the current owner they would buy it back if he ever wanted to sell it!

 

[wylye]

Been playing around with a sporterised MK38 Gd.3. It originally came from a member on here and is a 32ins trap gun with 5/8ths in each barrel. Put a new pad on it to get the right length, found a lovely sporting forend and re-finished it to turn it into a really nice sporting/fitasc gun. Took it out with great expectations to a mid-week fitasc shoot and the bloody thing won't fire the bottom barrel! It needs new pins for goodness sake! Well it is a Miroku I suppose.