MK38 sporter does it shoot flat or slighlty high like the trap version?

[Jonny English]

Evening folks, bit of a question on behalf of my Dad, he would like to pick up an MK38 30'' for claying with this year.  He likes the trap beavertail forend and a gun that shoots high, but shoots all sporting.  He would really like a mk38 trap 30'' thats had teagues fitted in the fixed choke barrels, but these are like rocking horse droppings.  If he has to go with a mk38 sporter will it pattern slightly high the same as the trap gun or will in pattern flat.

Regards Martin 

 

[SoR]

Check out shootbay sure there's a mk for sale

 

[Skeet UK]

I'm watching Johnny English right now.

Why not get the gun he really wants...then get it Teagued for about £300?  Probably the best idea.

I am not hugely familiar with the MK's, though I know they are highly regarded.  However, if it is a true sporter, it should shoot 60/40, rather than the 90/10 (ish) of a true Trap gun.

 

[Fuzrat]

My Mk38 trap shoots nowhere near 90/10 closer to 70/30, and maybe a smidge flatter  

 

[Skeet UK]

There you go, so they don't shoot massively high then.  So probably wouldn't shoot much higher than the MK38 sporter really eh Fuzrat?

 

[watchman]

My Mk38 trap shoots nowhere near 90/10 closer to 70/30, and maybe a smidge flatter  

I have to say I have an MK38 grade five fixed 3/4 and full , and even with the comb at rock bottom it shoots at least 90/10 , just my back up gun now next to DT 10 x trap with nill griffe stock that shoots 70/30

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Evening folks, bit of a question on behalf of my Dad, he would like to pick up an MK38 30'' for claying with this year.  He likes the trap beavertail forend and a gun that shoots high, but shoots all sporting.  He would really like a mk38 trap 30'' thats had teagues fitted in the fixed choke barrels, but these are like rocking horse droppings.  If he has to go with a mk38 sporter will it pattern slightly high the same as the trap gun or will in pattern flat.

Regards Martin 

Best bet IMO is get a spoter and fit a beaver tail trap forend, as they are already multi choked (a teague conversion is nearer £400plus for four chokes and obviously £600 plus for six chokes) give yourself a few weeks and you will soon get used to where it shoots, having just converted to an mk38 32" sporter fitted with muller chokes 2-3  it must be the easiest gun to shoot i have ever owned. :biggrin:

 

[Jonny English]

He has a sporter forend on his silver pigeon game gun, so its not like he isn't used to a shnabel forend, but he does like a gun to shoot high, but he can always get the stock lifted to suit. Thanks for all the responses.

Martin

 

[jake.keeling]

I'll stick my neck out and say all Mk38 are manufactured to the same high POI, and the adjustments on the comb only alter it a little. Remember the Mk was the classic gun to Sporterise back in the day. Learn to point the rib, learn high POI, it's the nuts!

 

[Westward]

The trap version has a higher comb so it will shoot higher relative to the bead. Most ribs have a gentle taper toward the muzzle which will raise the pattern slightly above 50:50 if the gun is mounted with only the bead visible and the rib flat.

Every shooter has to decide where they want their eye relative to the rib so that 100% of the pattern goes to where they want.

The only way to quantify the difference between these 2 is to POi test them on a plate or better still IMO, on real targets. It's a lot easier to tinker with the chokes on the right gun than the comb height on the wrong gun.

 

[whiskymac]

I shoot an MK38 trap which has been Teagued (I use it for ESP) and it shoots nowhere near 90/10, it's far flatter than that...more like 60/40 ish...though there has been a little wood taken off the comb to lower POI a little. It is also the non adjustable comb version and as one poster pointed out before, the adjustable comb guns do seem a little higher in the comb to start with (in the lowest setting).

Prior to this I shot an MK38 Sporter which had an adjustable comb which was raised a bit, probably similar height to my current trap gun and sight pictures are more or less the same with both guns.