moving fore hand

[paul b]

Not something i have ever done,but in a article with digweed i read he talks about moving his hand forward on distance targets and on another thread there is talk of this in relationship to different trap disciplines.

If using a swing through method would a hand forward cause the gun to slow and cause a miss or would the sub concious still work it all out anyway?  

 

[Macc Ladd]

My guess it is for steadying the gun, for more control!! As for the second part of the question shouldn't make a lot of difference, the clay speed should never beat the gun speed,

 

[Will Hewland]

Moving the hand forward will cause finer but slower movement. GD advises it for rabbits. To say it will cause a miss is vague. Perhaps if you were spot on before, then you will miss without first getting used to it..

Personally I think it's really wrong when you see somebody holding the forend a long way back. I saw somebody at Weston last week holding the action! They weren't doing well.. You need to hold forward to gain precision I reckon.. But basically it is what you get used to.

I was at a small shoot last year and watched a fella blank a quartering target stand. He was passing through the targets and missing up the side, overleading. I made him get back in the cage and move his hand forward on the forend, and do nothing different. He immediately smacked the targets with the slowed muzzle.

 

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It all depends on how long your arm is and your stock length ....just saying..!

Not all people can hold the far end of the forend.

I have always held close to the action.

 

[EdSolomons]

Mix it up depending on targets speed!

 

[paul b]

I always hold close to the action,but thats just what i have got used to,the missing in front that clever mentions is something that is far to familiar with me especially on rabbits.

nicola yes not all people can get there arm forward easily enough, but if you can its another tool in the box .  

ed i think thats half my problem,i do the same thing on everything and not mixing it up is why there is a big hole my scores

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Have seen some weird and wonderful hold positions over the years but as Tinker bell states depending on your stock length and arm length its a very personal thing although I would advise against literally holding the action although many good shooters can often be seen with fingers extending pass the end of the forend. 

Have even seen a guy resting the forend on his knuckels as if adopting a target air rifle type of hold :fie:   very odd indeed, Must say I personally keep the same hold position throughout whether this is going to hold me back only a good coach will tell needless to say I have never felt it to be detrimental to me personally . :biggrin:  (smiley inserted)

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

OOPs there you go Ed answered my question before I had finished my post like a Genie just ask and he will appear with the answer :spiteful:   How great is this forum!!! you can get instant advice from one of the top coaches around without even getting off your backside. :biggrin:   :biggrin:

 

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Are we talking sppppporting aaaaagain because you sure don't mix it up on trap.....just saying :wink:

 

[EdSolomons]

It's an interesting one really, it's more of a contributory factor than a main cause but can help on certain targets when applied with the other elements of the shot.

For example a long hanging crow- doesn't need much doing with it and moving the hand further down the for end can steady the gun up. BUT if you chose the wrong hold point/method of applying lead it probably won't save you.

Lots of people don't move their hand and shoot very well, it's knowing when or indeed if you should use it.

 

[EdSolomons]

Yes sorry sporting. Traps easy, just point and shoot any old how ;-)

 

[Hamster]

I hold the fore end in the same place most of the time for familiarity sake; have always known holding further forward slows you down but hadn't occurred to me to apply this specifically to rabbits but it could be a good tip. I tend to use other ways of slowing myself down such as holding the gun further out and making a conscious decision to mount into the rabbit later.

Conversely if I want faster gun speed or momentum then I hold closer to the launch point which generates a faster catch-up rhythm, but agree a similar effect can be gained by holding closer to the action. I find fast tower birds a good candidate for close to action hold.

 

[Hamster]

Yes sorry sporting. Traps easy, just point and shoot any old how ;-)

You make it sound complicated. :lol:

 

[paul b]

nicola mainly sporting but on trap targets going away i tend to flick over the top and was thinking that slowing the swing may help.

hamster i go closer to the launch point to get more speed aswell but timing has got to be spot on and i am starting to think that this is not a good plan.

 

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Yes sorry sporting. Traps easy, just point and shoot any old how ;-)

Yeah......and that is why sppppporting will never be in the Olympics......just saying...!

 

[EdSolomons]

Probably not! No skin off my rice pudding

 

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Probably not! No skin off my rice pudding

Mine neither...I am crap at all of them.....true story :wink:

 

[Angelfire]

I always held the gun where it felt most comfortable to shoot.

Phil*

 

[Tim]

'Sporting' is spelt with just one 'p'