Muller's waterfowl chokes

[Dbac300566]

Been looking to buy extended chokes for b525,been speaking to Teague about chokes they recommend 3/4 or 5/8 for game shooting.The gun has a adjustable stock so the we bit more weight up front should not be a issue(as the stock is heavier with the metal of the adjuster)The muller chokes are lighter,so I am asking as a lot of you use muller chokes for clay shooting has any one use the waterfowl chokes for ducks and game,muller's are £99 each and Teague are£38 each so big price difference.Thanks

 

[Garwood]

I have Mullers & Teagues but tbh i`d stick with the factory chokes for game shooting ,nothing wrong with them at all .(for clays too!)

 

[westley]

Unless you are shooting REALLY high birds, I would stick with the guns own chokes in 1/4 and 1/2. Fire the top barrel 1/2 choke first then the 1/4 choke. If you take the bird in front with the 1/2 choke and kill it, you are only loading 1 cartridge,  which is easier to load in the top barrel. Should you miss or a second bird is taken, you are shooting the more open choke at a closer target.  Twice in the past month I have been standing with novice shooters, both using 525's with the above factory chokes and 28 gram cartridges in 6 shot. By the end of play, each was killing birds cleanly in front without any trouble. That choke combination is also suitable for use with steel shot, should the need arise.

 

[Dbac300566]

Thanks for the advice,just making sure I was not missing out,next gun on the shoot was shooting with extended Teague chokes hitting and missing just as me.Is it frowned upon to have extended chokes when shooting game.

 

[FreeShot]

Bear in mind actual constrictions:

Browning factory


SK / .000", IC / .004", M / .012", IM / .018", F / .031"

Muller chokes (Clay)


U0 = .002",U1 = .005", U2 = .012", U3 = .022", U4 = .035"

Teague


Cyl=.000, IC=.005, 1/4=.010, 3/8=.015, 1/2= .020, 5/8=.025, 3/4=.030, 7/8=.035, Full=.040, Xfull=.045  

 

[Dbac300566]

Browning choke F/031",Teague F/040" big difference.

 

[FreeShot]

It is all relative - on backbored barrels .030 is as tight you might go  - with .035 (Teague 7/8) patterns already show patching and voids on most cartridges (clay cartridges small size #8-7 shot)...might be fine with #5 or bigger shot tho (haven't tried it yet). I use factory flush Browning ones - IC (.004) and M (.012) for walked upon and might switch to M (.012) and F (.030) when longer shots are to be expected so IMO 3/4 (.030) or 5/8 (.025) as suggested by Teague is spot on. Teague does not encourage to shoot steel through anything tighter than 1/2 (.020) tho.

Oh and as we speak - Teague extended 5/8 (38g) is exactly 7g heavier than flush factory 3/4 (31g) - so 14g (both barrels) difference shouldn't make much difference in the field I guess.

 

[Dbac300566]

Thanks for that,I can see there maybe a small need for a Teague choke to slot between the browning chokes but it is very small.

 

[westley]

Thanks for the advice,just making sure I was not missing out,next gun on the shoot was shooting with extended Teague chokes hitting and missing just as me.Is it frowned upon to have extended chokes when shooting game.

It most certainly is NOT frowned upon to use extended chokes on any of the game shoots that I have been on, (and there have been 1 or 2 !) but I do not use my 'clay' gun for game shooting. I do not study facts and figures regarding chokes (it just gives me a headache !) I merely base my assumptions on how my target reacts. I use Briley extended in my clay guns, only because,  I THINK,  that they perform better than any of the other after sales chokes available and this is solely based upon my observations, using the same brand of cartridges. My 2 game guns, 12 bore Westley Richards and Beretta 20 bore are both fixed choke and having found a suitable cartridge for them, I stick with it. Having confidence in your equipment is half the battle (so to speak !). I rather think that your sporting reputation will be decided upon by your capability, sportsmanship and general shooting behaviour more than extended or flush chokes. If your neighbouring guns keep diving for cover, I doubt your choice of chokes will be uppermost in their  minds. Just leave the gun alone and go and enjoy yourself.

 

[Dbac300566]

Sound's like good advice,am keeping the browning chokes and let mr Teague make his money elsewhere,has anybody patterned tested a browning B525 with inv plus chokes with game cartridges,modified and improved.

 

[Skeet UK]

Been looking to buy extended chokes for b525,been speaking to Teague about chokes they recommend 3/4 or 5/8 for game shooting.The gun has a adjustable stock so the we bit more weight up front should not be a issue(as the stock is heavier with the metal of the adjuster)The muller chokes are lighter,so I am asking as a lot of you use muller chokes for clay shooting has any one use the waterfowl chokes for ducks and game,muller's are £99 each and Teague are£38 each so big price difference.Thanks

Why do you need the Waterfowl chokes?  

If you want Mullers, just go with the regular ones. Perhaps a U2 and U3 or pair of U3.

 

[ips]

chokes specifically for waterfowl....marketing genius. Words fail me.

 

[westley]

chokes specifically for waterfowl....marketing genius. Words fail me.

Ah yes, but what is more amazing is the ability to change to a 'Waterfowl' choke before the Waterfowl has flown by   :???: !!

 

[foldAA]

Bear in mind actual constrictions:

Browning factory

SK / .000", IC / .004", M / .012", IM / .018", F / .031"

Muller chokes (Clay)

U0 = .002",U1 = .005", U2 = .012", U3 = .022", U4 = .035"

Teague

Cyl=.000, IC=.005, 1/4=.010, 3/8=.015, 1/2= .020, 5/8=.025, 3/4=.030, 7/8=.035, Full=.040, Xfull=.045  

anything like this for Beretta chokes? pref hp optima?

 

[Dbac300566]

The waterfowl chokes are ok for the larger shot size for game,whilst the U chokes are only for the smaller shot size for clay shooting according to muller ,but then that could be bullsh!t.

 

[chippy]

chokes specifically for waterfowl....marketing genius. Words fail me.

I always use them for teal clays.

PS iam in the market for a muller 1/4ing away choke if anyone has a spare?

 

[FreeShot]

anything like this for Beretta chokes? pref hp optima?

Optima HP

Cyl= .004, Skeet (USA)= .006, IC= .013, LM=.017, M=.020, IM=.025, F=.037

From: http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=369777&start=40

 

[Skeet UK]

The waterfowl chokes are ok for the larger shot size for game,whilst the U chokes are only for the smaller shot size for clay shooting according to muller ,but then that could be bullsh!t.

I have had no problems shooting 5/6s through U3's.

I think the Waterfowl hobbies are designed for LARGE shot and particularly, non toxic shot.  it is a bad idea to shoot heavy steel loads, through a tight Muller featherlite.

So will you actually be on the foreshores, or will you be shooting regular game birds with the occasional duck?

 

[ips]

you win, I cant not ask.

waterfowl chokes. ?

what the beejesus. ??