Official CPSA rules for ESK

[ehb102]

Is there a rule in the official CPSA rulebook for ESK that states how long a competitor has to take a shot? I mean for example how many seconds you have from standing on the peg. I can't find such a rule in the PDFs I'm downloading, but I was told there was one. Can anyone with knowledge of this help me please? 

Thanks.

 

[timps]

In booklet 5 general rules it states:- 

2.05 All competitors must call for their target within 10 seconds of the Referee acknowledging that shooting may commence. Competitors failing to call within 10 seconds will be warned on the first occasion and a one-target penalty for each subsequent occurrence shall be imposed. See Technical rules in all disciplines for further clarification. 

I assume it applies to all CPSA disciplines. 

 

[ehb102]

In booklet 5 general rules it states:- 

2.05 All competitors must call for their target within 10 seconds of the Referee acknowledging that shooting may commence. Competitors failing to call within 10 seconds will be warned on the first occasion and a one-target penalty for each subsequent occurrence shall be imposed. See Technical rules in all disciplines for further clarification. 

I assume it applies to all CPSA disciplines. 

Thank you. That's what I was looking for.

 

[Hotshot100]

In booklet 5 general rules it states:- 

2.05 All competitors must call for their target within 10 seconds of the Referee acknowledging that shooting may commence. Competitors failing to call within 10 seconds will be warned on the first occasion and a one-target penalty for each subsequent occurrence shall be imposed. See Technical rules in all disciplines for further clarification. 

I assume it applies to all CPSA disciplines. 

I was looking for that. I knew it existed but couldn't find it.

 

[Gee]

Read in the back of an old(ish) Pull magazine recently that there is no specific rule for skeet and that they would not enforce one, as they would not to want to rush shooters and compromise gun safety.

Not sure what issue it was in but it wasn't that old (few months maybe?) and it was a full article if I remember rightly. Read it at Notts so it may still be on the table.

There are some awful slow shooters out there tho.

 

[ehb102]

Read in the back of an old(ish) Pull magazine recently that there is no specific rule for skeet and that they would not enforce one, as they would not to want to rush shooters and compromise gun safety.

Not sure what issue it was in but it wasn't that old (few months maybe?) and it was a full article if I remember rightly. Read it at Notts so it may still be on the table.

There are some awful slow shooters out there tho.

Really? Because at my first skeet registered someone (a very experienced AA shooter) complained to the ref that I was shooting too slowly. The ref told me that I had to speed up, but was unable to cite rules at me. And of course said ref waited until I was about to shoot to do this. I was on the end of the squad, not bothering anyone else and was stepping in with cartridges in hand, ready to load but of course I'm not a previous national champion. It was my County championship, I'd practiced lots and was hoping to do really well, this guy was just shooting a registered. I am not experienced enough at competing to have that kind of experience without it affecting me and I had two bad rounds. It all rather soured me for skeet shooting. 

 

[Guest]

Hi Liz,

There has been alot of discussion regarding shooters time, really to speed up the discipline. There are some painfully slow shooters and a time rule would aid the sport I believe the 10 seconds mentioned is from when you stand on the slab and are in a position to call for your target. There is no time limits stated from being loaded and the gun closed to shouting pull!

If you are challenged by a ref again, make him show you the rule he is referring to in the cpsa rule book, which no doubt he has in his pocket. If he can't, I'm sure he will apologize and ask the cpsa for rule clarification.

We want to encourage more shooters like you to shoot skeet!

good luck with your next competition.

 

[skeetman]

You can always shoot with me Liz I'm not that fast my self .don't let any one put you off keep going and enjoy it

 

[timps]

Next time the ref does it ask to see the stop watch saying 10 seconds exactly, no idea how it can be enforced unless every ref has a stop watch and starts it as soon as he or she says they are ready.

It never bothers me what you do on a stand only what you do when I am on it, tell the AA shooter to mind their business next time.

 

[Salopian]

Will ALL referee's watches have calibration certificates ?

Will the seconds be GMT seconds or Shropshire seconds, which seem to take ages?

 

[ehb102]

Thanks, guys. 

I hear a lot about "skeet shooting etiquette" but so far as I can tell it boils down to  "one rule for me because I'm AA, one rule for everyone else."  

Really, some people should be marked as "should not squad with C class". 

 

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[Jan Powell]

Really? Because at my first skeet registered someone (a very experienced AA shooter) complained to the ref that I was shooting too slowly. The ref told me that I had to speed up, but was unable to cite rules at me. And of course said ref waited until I was about to shoot to do this. I was on the end of the squad, not bothering anyone else and was stepping in with cartridges in hand, ready to load but of course I'm not a previous national champion. It was my County championship, I'd practiced lots and was hoping to do really well, this guy was just shooting a registered. I am not experienced enough at competing to have that kind of experience without it affecting me and I had two bad rounds. It all rather soured me for skeet shooting. 

Providing you are not excessively slow i'd be suprised if a referee has an issue with it. Skeet isn't a discipline that relies on squad timing like some trap disciplines do. Other competitors can step away and occupy their minds with something else if they wish.

I'd be suprised if you need more than 15 seconds to call for your target and if that's all you're doing, that's fine.

 

[Skeetfreak]

Sadly we seem have lost sight that this is a hobby and got to engrossed in unessesary rules. Everyone has their own little quirks.....

Scuffing the pads clean

Multiple gun mounts

Tweaking hat / glasses

Etc etc etc.

Now if the grounds are so jam packed full to the point that they cannot accomodate a shooter taking a few extra seconds. What are they going to do if they have a break down?

If shooters cannot handle a new shooter taking a few extra seconds then how will they react to far more invasive distractions as they shoot. No-one is ever going to make a living from actually shooting (not taking into account coaching etc) and therefore it is a hobby that some shooters take more seriously than others. But.... we should never do so to the detriment of others enjoyment as basically we are all there for the same reason...... because we enjoy it!

I easily run under the time limits but think they are a bad idea guaranteed way to drive new shooters away from competition. We should be trying to encourage new competitors not put them off with silly time rules. It would be better to reduce the number of squads by one rather than pressure shooters.

 

[Bryn12]

Thankfully I'm just putting in the practice at skeet just now but we do shoot in a squad at Auldgirth on Wednesday nights so this is getting me used to 'comp' type routine. If I want to work on something specific I go off to Westlands where I'm pretty much guaranteed to have the skeet range to myself. I shoot fairly quickly, though it did come as quite a shock when I joined a DTL squad for the first time and the only time there wasn't a clay in the air was when moving stands. Reckon anyone pulling a novice up for being slow should take a chill pill, speed will usually pick up with experience and familiarity. I find the time off stand quite useful, it gives me time to try and relax, refocus and try and remember how I should be shooting the next stand.

 

[ehb102]

I easily run under the time limits but think they are a bad idea guaranteed way to drive new shooters away from competition. We should be trying to encourage new competitors not put them off with silly time rules. It would be better to reduce the number of squads by one rather than pressure shooters.

I find the other shooters more off putting than the rules.

 

[joe kitson]

Hay slopy you can afford watches in shrops  never.  did/t now you could tell time mate 

 

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