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paul b

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just watched some ot on u tube and the nose is nearly touching there thumb, so are the stocks short or have they got some weird way of mounting.i have had a go at trap a couple of times and with a sporting gun everything feels  wrong. 

 
A lot of the Italians seem to reach forward quite a bit, I was always told you want about 2 finger widths from nose to end of comb on a trap gun, but how true this is I don't know. I tend to shoot a shorter stock at trap despite being over 6'. If you look at someone like Satu Makela-Numella she is completely the opposite head a long way back on the stock. Personal preference and physicality I guess.

 
It's true to say that stock length is one of the the few measurements that doesn't need to be exact to achieve success. Correct comb height, cast and drop are essential. Length (providing it's not extreme) is not.

 
Abbey's rival Galvez in the Lonato World Cup is an extreme example of this. The cameras don't show it well in the highlights but at times Galvez appears to have her thumb closer to her ear than her nose. The style is known as stock-crawling and in general is not recommended as it causes further and further inclination of the head and a consequent locking of the eyeballs at the top of their range. Richard Faulds has exemplary head upright and horizontal gaze. Ian Peel is interesting to watch as he achieves this by arching of his back but brings his head upright again by considerable flexure of the spine.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVgkynSbuEM&list=SP3852C4AF350423A3&index=20

 
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Never noticed this from ian, sounds like a dodgy manouvre for my back though :)

 
Or you have a short stock just like Pete Wilson and like I have had made. When I told Wilfried that I wanted to get right up close and personal to my thumb his reply was......ah just like Peter Wilson.

 
I recall seeing about 6 pictures in one magazine earlier this year, all showing trappies with their nose at or past the thumb. Must be something in it for them. I don't understand the art at all. Just commenting..

 
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In an ideal world your eyeball would be sat on the end of the Rib, You don't need a big gap, just my opinion, as I know some shooters are well back.

 
In an ideal world your eyeball would be sat on the end of the Rib, You don't need a big gap, just my opinion, as I know some shooters are well back.
Agreed.

Up close and personal for trap.

 
Only thing I will add....for Pauls benefit mainly, though frankly he doesn't need any shooting lectures from me looking at his sporting achievements, head forward locks the gun in tight, stopping arm movement creeping in. If you are a higher injury seated shooter, or have limited movement through your back or core a head up stance with head slightly further back allows you that little bit of arm movement needed to get the big angles. Your head is also closer to the pivot point of the gun in your shoulder for the lateral movement, hence your face stays more in line as the gun moves. For able bodied swinging with arms is a big no no, for us disabled shooters it can be different story.

 
I work on the basis that as short a stock as possible without thumb hitting nose on recoil. I have various size beretta pads and on a new gun I start with short on and work up in size until my nose is not hit by thumb. Job done.

 
i cant stop whipping through them,the angled ones i am missing in front by a long way,and the going away ones an inch between a hit or a miss but because the gun is moving so fast i cant get consistant at them.in short am i pishing in the wind using my sporter?  

sid i am willing to take any advice on trap,its as differant to sporting as football is to rugby.   

 
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You are at a disadvantage shooting the quicker trap disciplines with a sporter in my honest opinion mate.

 
Paul,

 I think the problem may be your *** is catching the top lever and blowing ash into your eyes.

 
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