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My reply was in relation to the original posts and the suggestion that an armed uprising was on the cards.
I disagree that the Police interview process is the same for S.1 or S.2 applications. The legislation determines that firearms are catagorised in S.1 & S.2 and I'm sure the police recognise the distinction. S.1 firearms are, in themselves, a greater risk than S.2 firearms hence the different catagories. The volume of guns and rounds may have little relevance to the risk posed - its is the type (calibre, rounds, semi-auto etc) that matters. A quick review of the high profile events currently dictating gun control points towards certain types & calibres adopted for general use by the military (or Police themselves) as requiring tighter control than smoothbore shotguns which, with at most three shots & slow reload time, are rarely used in such events. These are the points that set government thinking over what falls in S.1 or S.2, whether we agree with them or not.
I would much prefer if those using S.1 firearms for sport were also not affected by the assumption that the government is in fear of a paramilitary uprising or for that matter any misuse of the firearms they hold. I do believe that those in possesion of a firearm (S.1 or S.2) for a recognised purpose such as the CPSA or a approved club show they are less of risk to the public. It shows they have a purpose for owning the gun and have learned safety in the guns use & storage etc which those without may lack. This is not a hard & fast rule however, but it is indicative.
As sad as it sounds I don't think the public care at all about suicides by gun whatever the gun type. I don't think the public care enough about suicide at all however it occurs and whoever it affects. Up until the 1961 Act suicide was criminal offence and in my mind that sigma has not left us and we continue to look at those who have committed suicide as having failed & been selfish when it is often that others have not helped them.
I remain of the view that this is a clay shooting forum and that concerns over S.1 legislation & application etc should have as little connection to S.2 shotguns and their use in clay shooting disiplines as possible. I accept however that I have no interest in a S.1 license and thus would happliy accept greater control over their issue.
Finally I know plenty of people with S.1 certificates.
I disagree that the Police interview process is the same for S.1 or S.2 applications. The legislation determines that firearms are catagorised in S.1 & S.2 and I'm sure the police recognise the distinction. S.1 firearms are, in themselves, a greater risk than S.2 firearms hence the different catagories. The volume of guns and rounds may have little relevance to the risk posed - its is the type (calibre, rounds, semi-auto etc) that matters. A quick review of the high profile events currently dictating gun control points towards certain types & calibres adopted for general use by the military (or Police themselves) as requiring tighter control than smoothbore shotguns which, with at most three shots & slow reload time, are rarely used in such events. These are the points that set government thinking over what falls in S.1 or S.2, whether we agree with them or not.
I would much prefer if those using S.1 firearms for sport were also not affected by the assumption that the government is in fear of a paramilitary uprising or for that matter any misuse of the firearms they hold. I do believe that those in possesion of a firearm (S.1 or S.2) for a recognised purpose such as the CPSA or a approved club show they are less of risk to the public. It shows they have a purpose for owning the gun and have learned safety in the guns use & storage etc which those without may lack. This is not a hard & fast rule however, but it is indicative.
As sad as it sounds I don't think the public care at all about suicides by gun whatever the gun type. I don't think the public care enough about suicide at all however it occurs and whoever it affects. Up until the 1961 Act suicide was criminal offence and in my mind that sigma has not left us and we continue to look at those who have committed suicide as having failed & been selfish when it is often that others have not helped them.
I remain of the view that this is a clay shooting forum and that concerns over S.1 legislation & application etc should have as little connection to S.2 shotguns and their use in clay shooting disiplines as possible. I accept however that I have no interest in a S.1 license and thus would happliy accept greater control over their issue.
Finally I know plenty of people with S.1 certificates.