Petion against EU firearms law change

[Rosso]

https://t.co/aaBEmYKICf

 

[RobertBeard]

Done!

 

[Les53]

Done

 

[Sian]

I had already done it.

 

[garry2749]

DONE.

 

[jwpzx9r]

If there was a vote for I would add my name. There is no place for semi automatic firearms of any sort in the sporting world. Believe it or not I know game keepers who have and did use seven shot 12g autos that were licensed to them to shot foxes and other vermin ... on pheasant shoots... nothing to see here you would say if there were only two in the mag! I have will have no truck with any semi auto or that type of weapon...no need... but I agree on each to their own.

 

[Jim Wheeler]

done, any restriction on currently legal firearms, is a further nail in the lid of ANY firearm ownership.

 

[Simonix]

Done!

 

[Darkside]

If there was a vote for I would add my name. There is no place for semi automatic firearms of any sort in the sporting world. Believe it or not I know game keepers who have and did use seven shot 12g autos that were licensed to them to shot foxes and other vermin ... on pheasant shoots... nothing to see here you would say if there were only two in the mag! I have will have no truck with any semi auto or that type of weapon...no need... but I agree on each to their own.

What an arsehole!!!

 

[GrrClark]

If there was a vote for I would add my name. There is no place for semi automatic firearms of any sort in the sporting world. Believe it or not I know game keepers who have and did use seven shot 12g autos that were licensed to them to shot foxes and other vermin ... on pheasant shoots... nothing to see here you would say if there were only two in the mag! I have will have no truck with any semi auto or that type of weapon...no need... but I agree on each to their own.

So because you don't like them you would deny anyone the opportunity.  So perhaps those that shoot sporting clays, but have recoil issues that a semi-auto makes a world of difference to and actually allows them to continue in the sport; the pigeon/crow shooters who get a huge benefit from having an extra cartridge in the gun; the guys who shoot PSG and are as every bit as responsible and committed to their sport as you are to yours are all to be denied because YOU don't see any place for it.

How does your attitude differ from someone who is just anti shooting, after all nobody who shoots for fun or sport really needs a gun, they don't see any place for shooting as a hobby, pastime or sporting interest so it should all be banned.  Would you sign up to that?

You are the very worse type of hypocrite!

 

[jwpzx9r]

So because you don't like them you would deny anyone the opportunity.  So perhaps those that shoot sporting clays, but have recoil issues that a semi-auto makes a world of difference to and actually allows them to continue in the sport; the pigeon/crow shooters who get a huge benefit from having an extra cartridge in the gun; the guys who shoot PSG and are as every bit as responsible and committed to their sport as you are to yours are all to be denied because YOU don't see any place for it.

How does your attitude differ from someone who is just anti shooting, after all nobody who shoots for fun or sport really needs a gun, they don't see any place for shooting as a hobby, pastime or sporting interest so it should all be banned.  Would you sign up to that?

You are the very worse type of hypocrite!

Calm down everybody is entitled to their own opinion and I respect your opinion... it does not change my opinion but I do respect it.

 

[GrrClark]

Calm down everybody is entitled to their own opinion and I respect your opinion... it does not change my opinion but I do respect it.

No need for me to calm down, i'm not agitated.  Just utterly dismayed at such a show of ignorance.  To quote yourself from another current thread...

 

I would not say it poisons the birds more like kills them! Just yet another sensational headline . There will be a ban on lead shot for hunting brought about by the anti's but I really don't see why this headline should actually indicate the need for a ban on lead shot use in clay targets shooting... but hey lets ban its use anyway. Lets get to the point though the main thrust of the whole exercise is the eventual banning of shotgun ownership and thus a ban on hunting with guns and why not ban clay target shooting too... after all only toffs do that right?

Don't you appreciate the hypocrisy of what you suggest in this thread re semi auto's when considered against your process of consideration on the use of lead shot?  Semi auto's are something you personally don't agree with so you would fully support a ban, in fact you would proactively promote a ban in supporting a petition to force change.  Yet there are those who are opposed to the use of lead, or just shooting in general, and you choose to castigate them for their irrational polarised stance and how they are not at all being cognisant of the actual truth of the situation.

Compare the two, your approach and reasoning toward them and consider if you are being consistent with how you form your opinion.

 

[CharlesP]

With respect I strongly believe there's a place for my semi-auto in my clay shooting. Losing it may just force me to give up.

 

[jwpzx9r]

The two are entirely different. I don't advocate the banning of shotguns but the anti's do. I am not anti shogun but am anti semi auto especially large mag type. I am not anti lead in ammunition but recognise that some "experts" see it as harmful and the anti's will use that as an excuse to gain some leverage in the gun debate . My comment re the anti's wanting to ban the use of firearms in not my wish but it is a statement of the fact of their wishes. I am not and have not castigated any faction in the gun debate ... I have given my opinion on what the anti's seek as an eventual outcome... I don't agree with their stance but they are entitled to have a voice as much as the pro guns / hunting group its called democracy. I am not against anybody having a passion / belief that may just be the polar opposite of my view but sometimes in life that is just the way it is.

I am not knocking you for having your opinion don't bother me for having mine... have a nice day!

 

[shortlegs]

done 

 

[Jim Wheeler]

you may find this interesting, i did see this a short while back.;

Australian Gun Law Update;
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....'

You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!

FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. 
DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON 'T STAND FOR NONSENSE
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

 

[RobertBeard]

If there was a vote for I would add my name. There is no place for semi automatic firearms of any sort in the sporting world. Believe it or not I know game keepers who have and did use seven shot 12g autos that were licensed to them to shot foxes and other vermin ... on pheasant shoots... nothing to see here you would say if there were only two in the mag! I have will have no truck with any semi auto or that type of weapon...no need... but I agree on each to their own.

With the greatest respect the Olympic target shooting disciplines have a rapid fire pistol discipline so the pistol is naturally a semi-auto .22 calibre gun.

When the pistol ban was brought in back in 1996 people turned to other guns to see how they could continue with what used to be shot with pistols.

The Ruger .22 rimfire semi-auto found its place in target shooting and there are many target shooting competitions based on rapid fire or turning target or steel challenge knock down type targets.

These guns are obviously strictly controlled under UK legislation.

Pistol shooters were unjustifiably treated in the 1996 ban because it was they who had reported Thomas Hamilton to the police as unsafe to hold guns.

Remove Rugers and you spoil it all for all those that enjoy their pistol shooting disciplines!

 

[Nimbusgb]

you may find this interesting, i did see this a short while back.;

Australian Gun Law Update;
Here's a thought to warm some of your hearts....
From: Ed Chenel, A police officer in Australia
Hi Yanks, I thought you all would like to see the real
figures from Down Under. It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced by a new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by our own
government, a program costing Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars.

The first year results are now in:
Australia-wide, homicides are up 6.2 percent,
Australia-wide, assaults are up 9.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)!
In the state of Victoria.....alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent.(Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not and criminals still possess their guns!)
While figures over the previous 25 years showed a steady
decrease in armed robbery with firearms, this has changed drastically upward in the past 12 months, since the criminals now are guaranteed that their prey is unarmed.There has also been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly, while the resident is at home.

Australian politicians are at a loss to explain how public safety has decreased, after such monumental effort and expense was expended in 'successfully ridding Australian society of guns....'

You won't see this on the American evening news or hear your governor or members of the State Assembly disseminating this information.

The Australian experience speaks for itself. Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws affect only the law-abiding citizens.
Take note Americans, before it's too late!

FORWARD TO EVERYONE ON YOUR EMAIL LIST. 
DON'T BE A MEMBER OF THE SILENT MAJORITY.
BE ONE OF THE VOCAL MINORITY WHO WON 'T STAND FOR NONSENSE
AUSTRALIA: MORE VIOLENT CRIME DESPITE GUN BAN

Ah yes, that old chestnut.

http://www.snopes.com/crime/statistics/ausguns.asp

The main point to be learned here is that determining the effect of changes in Australia's gun ownership laws and the government's firearm buy-back program on crime rates requires a complex long-term analysis and can't be discerned from the small, mixed grab bag of short-term statistics offered here. And no matter what the outcome of that analysis, the results aren't necessarily applicable to the USA, where laws regarding gun ownership are (and always have been) much different than those in Australia.

The internet at its very best!

 

[schmokinn]

What an arsehole!!!

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