pimp my miroku

[Jan Powell]

£1200! Blimey, where are you shopping! A used but mint PFS will cost around £600. It will do all that ShaunMK38 asks and it's interchangeable if he decides to sell.

As I said, a no brainer really.

 

[Skeet UK]

£1200! Blimey, where are you shopping! A used but mint PFS will cost around £600. It will do all that ShaunMK38 asks and it's interchangeable if he decides to sell.

As I said, a no brainer really.

Used yes, obviously much cheaper...at £600 it is only double the cost of an ISIS including fitting...if he can find one and happens to fit a Miroku, otherwise it means £200 on a compatible grip.

And all that for a gun mounted on a big bouncy spring.

 

[Les53]

Used yes, obviously much cheaper...at £600 it is only double the cost of an ISIS including fitting...if he can find one and happens to fit a Miroku, otherwise it means £200 on a compatible grip.

And all that for a gun mounted on a big bouncy spring.

I kinda get the feeling that you are not a fan of the PFS !!!! :biggrin:

 

[Santa2512]

As Nicola has said do the comb conversion properly, it will cost about £150 - 160, Malcom Jenkins is very highly recommended, by others, he advertises in the magazines.

I have 2 green pads fitted to both of my Brownings, a 19mm one on the sporter and a 23mm one on the trap gun. Both are superb in reducing the effects of recoil. Much much better than the standard factory pad.

I can vouch for this ,  

I shot a back to back on saturday, using 3 different guns,  the Browning with the isis pad was buttery smooth,  i didnt really want to give it back . 

Mart

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Why not just fit a PFS? It'll give you recoil reduction that's much better than that offered by a change of pad as well as improved gunfit. Seems a bit of a no brainier to me.

Had one fitted to my 682 a few years ago and yes cost me £1200 but when I want something I just cough was indeed a great bit of kit for perfect fit and reduced recoil but oddly enough I was always conscious of it so it had to go. :fie:

 

[Skeet UK]

I kinda get the feeling that you are not a fan of the PFS !!!! :biggrin:

I know a guy who shoots from a  wheel chair.  he has used a PFS for a long time, as having his back against his chair, the recoil squished his shoulder etc.  Obviously, he also shoots from a seated position, so the the fact that it is so adjustable, is great. It can also bring REARWARDS recoil down to nothing...also great...but, because it uses Bevelle washers, which is a spring...it gives the recoil back to you in a forward motion.   because it extends the recoil pulse and reverses it, the shooter doesn't notice how bouncy they are,

So it isn't so much not being a fan of it..it is great for what it is, but springs store most of the energy they are given, then release it.  that is why you have a shock absorber AND a spring on a car...the shock dissipates the energy,  

If there isn't a shock and springs store energy...where did the recoil go?  

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Isis system all day for me. Never mind about re sale values- if you are it means your into chopping and changing and scores will suffer. Make a choice and commit.

I've had the full system plus a kick eez pad for years and love it. Never had recoil problems, and with the volume I shoot I'm unlikely too, but the softer I can get a gun shooting the better in my book.

Two thumbs up for daves products and service from me.

Thanks for that Ed nice to know someone at the top of their game has one fitted rather then treating it like a gimmick recoil has never been a problem for me but as Nicola states everyone feels recoil unless  your 25 stone naming no one! so anything that reduces recoil is a good thing will get a comb conversion whilst I am at it as its a wee bit low in the comb leading me to lift my head..

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Shaun, Malcolm Jenkins is your man for an adjustable comb, he has done 2 for me in the past, as for the ISIS, I would probably go for the green pad route first and see how that feels (£40), what shells are you using, I just switched to Hull Pro DTL 300's for sporting and fitasc and they are very smooth through my MK38.

I think making massive changes to guns can be counter productive, adjustable comb and green pad would be a good start, if recoil is still an issue you can have the isis fitted, probably with the green pad as well.

Thanks Matt will make some enquiry's this week regarding Malcolm Jenkins its important for me to get comb done as I can barely see the rib with my head on the stock leading me to lift for a peek going to go for the full isis plus green pad and be done with it as its something I have been toying with for some time, have been shooting with all manner of shells lately some better then others even using wifes 24g express for the close stuff very soft but still nice kills will try the Hull pro DTL 300 's and see what I think but I trust your judgment. P.S Love the trap forend bit wide at first but used to it now. :nyam:

 

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Shaun speak to Dave Izzard because they also have a floating comb which is a brill invention.

 

[BenW]

R Kid has just had an ISIS system and green pad fitted. So far he likes it. It hasn't altered the weight as what with cutting a bit of wood off, the system is really light and the green pad is lighter than the standard MK pad.

Isis system all day for me. Never mind about re sale values- if you are it means your into chopping and changing and scores will suffer. Make a choice and commit.
I've had the full system plus a kick eez pad for years and love it. Never had recoil problems, and with the volume I shoot I'm unlikely too, but the softer I can get a gun shooting the better in my book.
Two thumbs up for daves products and service from me.

Ed have you got the standard or trap version?

 

[EdSolomons]

No idea mate, standard I'd guess, had it for a while.

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Shaun speak to Dave Izzard because they also have a floating comb which is a brill invention.

Thanks Nicola will check it out this week :nyam:

 

[Hamster]

The only thing a reducer will do to a Mirooks value is double it, much the same as filling up a Skoda with fuel. :lol:   :lol:   Seriously, I can understand not wanting to alter a handmade Purdey but when it comes to reduced fatigue and increased comfort a couple of hundred quid spent on these gadgets is money well spent and for the record mid market second hand guns with reducers sell more easily anyway.

As a long time user of PFS I can vouch for their effectiveness and don't forget they leave the original stock unaltered, possibly to use on a driven day plus you can re-sell them for what you paid as long as you don't buy brand new. But for most people just about any decent mechanical reducer coupled to an Isis Green pad should be standard issue.

 

[bigmac1]

Get a proper adjustable comb.....bollocks to the stick on comb raiser....they are sh*te and move around. They are ok for beginners but not for serious competition shooters.....true story...!

As for Isis .....if you are having recoil problems go for the full Isis ...(stuff the resale.....you want to shoot without increased problems and you want the confidence of hitting things).

If you are not having recoil problems then fit the green pad.

All guns should have one for added comfort and recoil absorption .......just saying..!

Hope that helps...!

:maninlove:  Fawwww Can you say Bollocks again for me and sh*te. I just love it when you talk dirty :lolu:

 

[Les53]

:maninlove:  Fawwww Can you say Bollocks again for me and sh*te. I just love it when you talk dirty :lolu:

OK, let's move this to the porn section before it gets out of hand! :laugh:

 

[ground control]

Get a proper adjustable comb.....bollocks to the stick on comb raiser....they are sh*te and move around. They are ok for beginners but not for serious competition shooters.....true story...!

Can I ask about if your talking about the Recoil Systems stick on comb raiser ,or stick on comb raiser pads in general ?

When you say they move around , do you mean because they are soft or because they actually move on the stock due to their adhesive not working properly ?

Ken

 

[Hamster]

My PFS stocked 682E has had a 3mm Sorbothane sheet attached to the comb section for years and although it has degraded with age it has not moved. It makes the contact point with the face warmer and more comfortable. The same gun's standard wooden Trap stock with a factory adjustable comb has a 5mm Sorbothane covering, again never moved but looks proper ghetto. :lol:

I did no more than follow the instructions by cleaning the surfaces with the spirit cloths supplied allowing the glue side of the Sorbothane sheets to adhere.

I can imagine some add on comb raisers to be less than suitable for volume competition shooters though.

 

[Fuzrat]

Mrs Fuz has the recoil systems green stick on comb raiser, been on for well over a year and hasn't moved. She got it as it was cheaper than a proper adjustable comb and it works for her.

That said, I would get a proper adjustable every time for my guns, I can make adjustments for my weird shaped head and neck and it will add value in the long run

 

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Can I ask about if your talking about the Recoil Systems stick on comb raiser ,or stick on comb raiser pads in general ?

When you say they move around , do you mean because they are soft or because they actually move on the stock due to their adhesive not working properly ?

Ken

Hi Ken,

I like an adjustable comb that can be moved up or down to suit different disciplines and side ways to get perfect eye alignment.

The ones I do not like are to rubber ones that you tape on.

The Recoil systems stick on comb raisers are fab and I have just stuck a 6mm one on the adjustable comb of my EvoComp .....because of the nice soft feel to the face. (Some will not be able to figure that one out ..... :wink: )

Dave Izzard has some brilliant products. If you do not want to go to the expense of having an adjustable comb fitted then can I suggest that you look at his 6mm or 3 mm stick on's.

First time today with mine and the comfort is brill.

 

[ground control]

Hi Ken,

I like an adjustable comb that can be moved up or down to suit different disciplines and side ways to get perfect eye alignment.

The ones I do not like are to rubber ones that you tape on.

The Recoil systems stick on comb raisers are fab and I have just stuck a 6mm one on the adjustable comb of my EvoComp .....because of the nice soft feel to the face. (Some will not be able to figure that one out ..... :wink: )

Dave Izzard has some brilliant products. If you do not want to go to the expense of having an adjustable comb fitted then can I suggest that you look at his 6mm or 3 mm stick on's.

First time today with mine and the comfort is brill.

I already have one on my Blaser and that's why I couldn't understand about the moving around comment .

I agree that they are a quality piece of gear and really recommend them to anyone .

My scores have really improved since fitting it .

I have seen some attempts to raise the comb height with all sorts of things taped onto the stock and cast has to have been effected as much as the height .

I'm a bit old fashioned because there is just something I don't find aesthetically pleasing about a cut up stock with an adjustable comb but I'm the first to admit the real benefits they offer .

For me it seems the less things to adjust and play with on a gun the better , I've only just completed a 12 month mission of finding the ideal balance setup on the Blaser imagine if I'd had a comb to play with as well .

: )