Rat

[SteveK]

Hi,

Yes its a 4 month old old Brazilian Rainbow girl.

My other "biggie" is a common boa x Hogg Island, I think the mating was an attempt to try and get the shorter Hogg Island gene into a common boa with the aim of getting it down to about 5 or 6 feet. He's about 1 year old.

Our other snakes include a Hognose and Max has an extremely red amel corn.

 

[Skeet UK]

Heh! And I could even tell she was female...just from her pretty face...you're impressed aren't you?  You are...I can tell  

Nice collection... Hognose eh...rear fanged...nice

Back on topic;

ARRRGGGHHHH A HUGE RAT!!!

Somebody should put that thing on a leash you know.....

....wait for it....

....yes really....

 

[SteveK]

Try crossing:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211554/New-frog-rat-species-discovered-Papua-New-Guinea.html

with

http://news.sky.com/story/975372/new-rat-species-with-fangs-found-in-forest

Over size vampire rat - I think we need Jasper Carrott with his shotgun :fie:

 

[SteveK]

Talking about Jasper Carrott with his mole problem

How on earth would he explain that to a FEO?

 

[ehb102]

I would like to share my snake photos. I hope that's okay.

One day I got to meet a crown python (?)

Soon after I got a new handbag.

(It's vintage, honest. I'm quite pro-animal leathers, but holding a snake really made me think twice about exotic leathers.)

 

[Skeet UK]

That's a "Royal Python", hence maybe why you said "Crown Python".  That is what Slim is.  Lovely snakes, very friendly and stay a manageable size, without being skinny

 

[ehb102]

That's a "Royal Python", hence maybe why you said "Crown Python".  That is what Slim is.  Lovely snakes, very friendly and stay a manageable size, without being skinny

Thanks! Any idea on the snake leather?

 

[Skeet UK]

Thanks! Any idea on the snake leather?

Yeah...well.  If you like that sort of thing.  I have no issue with animal skins and so on, meat etc...but snakes are not mammals and as such will continue to live, LONG after you would expect them to be dead.

So your bag appears to be made of some variety of Python skin, due to its size.  So probably a Reticulated or Burmese Python. 

When they made it, they would probably have stunned the snake by hitting its head with a rock or similar, then what they do is stick a hose pipe in its mouth and fill it with water...as in really fill it...then tie that off so the water stays in, for about 15 mins, so stretching it.

Then they cut parts of the head and peel the skin off the snake....while it is still alive.  Then after that, while the skin is being dried etc, the snake would be gutted and cut up for meat.

Smaller snakes, when captured in the wild, have their heads crushed, then the skin pulled off...leaving the remaining body on the ground...takes the snake days to die.

So as you say, exotic skins have more "moral" issues behind them.

 

[Moore K-80]

Yeah...well.  If you like that sort of thing.  I have no issue with animal skins and so on, meat etc...but snakes are not mammals and as such will continue to live, LONG after you would expect them to be dead.

So your bag appears to be made of some variety of Python skin, due to its size.  So probably a Reticulated or Burmese Python. 

When they made it, they would probably have stunned the snake by hitting its head with a rock or similar, then what they do is stick a hose pipe in its mouth and fill it with water...as in really fill it...then tie that off so the water stays in, for about 15 mins, so stretching it.

Then they cut parts of the head and peel the skin off the snake....while it is still alive.  Then after that, while the skin is being dried etc, the snake would be gutted and cut up for meat.

Smaller snakes, when captured in the wild, have their heads crushed, then the skin pulled off...leaving the remaining body on the ground...takes the snake days to die.

So as you say, exotic skins have more "moral" issues behind them.

Although i am not into animals suffering this all sounds fine to me! I absolutely hate the bloody things!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Darkside]

I find it very hard to feel any compassion for a snake, but they should be killed humanly.

There is no such thing as "lovely snakes (maybe grilled?) they are not friendly, I can't understand why anyone would want one as a 'pet' and why do you think they take days to die? Define dead? Cut head off...dead!

 

[Skeet UK]

I find it very hard to feel any compassion for a snake, but they should be killed humanly.

There is no such thing as "lovely snakes (maybe grilled?) they are not friendly, I can't understand why anyone would want one as a 'pet' and why do you think they take days to die? Define dead? Cut head off...dead!

That's right...whatever the animal is for and regardless of how we might feel about them, a humane kill is always preferred in most cases.

In many religions (other than Christianity) snakes are considered fortuitous, rather than evil.

Because Snakes are reptiles, not mammals and because they are cold blooded and do not expend energy in the same way we mammals do; their bodies react very differently. If you crush its head, without fully destroying its tiny brain...it will stay alive...while you rip its skin off...then it will continue to live as it slowly dies of its injuries.

Some people believe that the most humane way to kill a snake (a pet for example) is to put it in the freezer...thinking that as it is cold blooded, it will chill down and pass away peacefully.

What actually happens, is that ice crystals form in the snakes blood...and it dies what we can only imagine is a pretty slow and agonising death.

The only way to humanely kill a snake, is complete cranial destruction...literally smash its head flat...quickly.

If you cut a snakes head off, the head will continue to live for some time.

See this video of a "dead" (defined by the removal of the head) Rattlesnake, envenomating a spade:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDfx0ciHFoc