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there is no possible excuse for bad gun handling. Primary safety mantra is never point a closed gun loaded or presumed unloaded at anything you are not going to shoot. Anyone who cannot grasp such a simplistic rule should not be allowed anywere near a gun .... End of

as for how to approach someone who hasn't got the mental capacity for the above well I suppose this depends on the situation.

 
In an ideal world yes, you should be able to say or do whatever is necessary to be safe. But in the real world this person is a paying guest at a commercial shoot, and you need to approach matters in a diplomatic and sensitive way. The gun may be a close friend of the shoot owner or a person who spends a lot of money at that shoot, these matters aren't easy to approach when a lot is at stake. You can't go risking the safety of others but you have to find a sensitive way of approaching the matter or leave in the hands of the shoot captain to deal with. I think you took the right approach.
So you were not concerned with the financial element then? Seems I may have misunderstood you  :rolleyes:

 
We see it quite often especially new guns.

We go up and in a polite but firm manner ask them not to point the gun in the direction of other guns or our staff.

Dont think many if any got upset but it MUST be said.

PMG63

 
This all sems very "British" to me. After all, we don't want to upset anybody do we?

It must be quite something to discuss over a Pimms and Lemonade after High Tea, about the faux pas made by Colonel Whatsisname because he used the 'wrong' cartridge to pepper a beater, a dog, or heaven forbid, the Host's Wife earlier in the day. Terribly bad form don'tcha know!

I apologise for being old enough to remember when a man pointing a gun in your direction was considered to be 'The Enemy'. Maybe it explains why I get a bit twitchy about it?

It must be wonderful to live in a world where you think it won't happen, because it never has before, but if it does result in a disaster, all you have to do is press reset to gain a new life and play the game again.

 
A year or two back an old boy came as a guest to the shoot I regularly frequent in Mid Wales, he was blind in one eye.

At lunchtime the subject was raised and yes it was the result of him being shot by a neighbouring gun! Amongst other stories that he told that day, was ANOTHER instance when he was shot by accident on a driven day!!

Then there are experienced guns shooting low birds close to beaters........

It does happen.       

 
This all sems very "British" to me. After all, we don't want to upset anybody do we?

It must be quite something to discuss over a Pimms and Lemonade after High Tea, about the faux pas made by Colonel Whatsisname because he used the 'wrong' cartridge to pepper a beater, a dog, or heaven forbid, the Host's Wife earlier in the day. Terribly bad form don'tcha know!

I apologise for being old enough to remember when a man pointing a gun in your direction was considered to be 'The Enemy'. Maybe it explains why I get a bit twitchy about it?

It must be wonderful to live in a world where you think it won't happen, because it never has before, but if it does result in a disaster, all you have to do is press reset to gain a new life and play the game again.
you are Walter Mitty and I claim my £5.

 
This is such a good subject, and nice to know we are all so safety conscious and self rightous.

How many of you Game shooters know a former Chief Constable who takes his gun out of his car boot , puts two cartridges in the chamber and keeps two live rounds in the chamber all day , including in the lunch hut and in his gunslip between drives???

I know him but will not go or stay on a shoot where he is, I have remonstrated with various Hosts, Agents and Keepers, all to no avail.

" It's all right, the safety catch is on."

 

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