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Spot on will. Just looking at a bird that takes 12 foot sadly doesn't cut it.

 
Spot on will. Just looking at a bird that takes 12 foot sadly doesn't cut it.
So on a bird that does take 12 foot can you describe where your looking or what your sight picture looks like Ed. Would you close on eye just before pulling the trigger to see the lead easier?

 
My version in case Ed has gone to bed..

Both eyes open ALWAYS (unless you have real eye dominance issue). You are focussed at distance, looking at the clay. Your peripheral vision gives you lots of info about where the barrel is and despite it not being in sharp focus, you can still see that you are pointing at a spot 12feet in front of the clay. It's actually very simple in principle. The bit that takes some learning is gaining a smooth and repeatable speed of gun so that you are able to judge it each time. (You can't coach on a forum and there is a bit more to it than that potentially, but that's the principle).

 
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Exactly as Will describes really, and ditto the both eyes open all the time.

Saved me a job there Hewland!

Ed

 
Ruddy complicated this shooting sideways stuff, trap sounds simple by comparison.

Both eyes open and focused only on target, see target pull trigger lead is sorted out by gun speed... simples.

 
Ruddy complicated this shooting sideways stuff, trap sounds simple by comparison.

Both eyes open and focused only on target, see target pull trigger lead is sorted out by gun speed... simples.
Ha.....both eyes SHUT seems to work just as well for me half the time!!!! :laugh:

 
Thank you everyone. Had a chat with the instructor before we started about the issue. Had a fantastic lesson. Both eyes open, looked at the lead and 16/25 on the first try, 15 on the 2nd and 18 on the 3rd. Over the moon. Thanks everyone:)

 
My version in case Ed has gone to bed..
Both eyes open ALWAYS (unless you have real eye dominance issue). You are focussed at distance, looking at the clay. Your peripheral vision gives you lots of info about where the barrel is and despite it not being in sharp focus, you can still see that you are pointing at a spot 12feet in front of the clay. It's actually very simple in principle. The bit that takes some learning is gaining a smooth and repeatable speed of gun so that you are able to judge it each time. (You can't coach on a forum and there is a bit more to it than that potentially, but that's the principle).
I like to use this explanation to people that keep harping on about your gun must shoot where you look(surely encourages looking at bead).......erm not really, it should shoot where you point it.


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I found this set of images from http://www.gunsnstuff.co.uk/eye-dominance-2/eye-dominance-explained/. It helped me develop a consistent sight picture and feel like I knew where the bead was when I was looking at the clay. Of course there were some Eds involved in this process as well but YMMV. I still get picked up for looking at the gun occasionally though.

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Off which fricking shoulder?

 
Looking at the barrel instead of the target is called "barrel fixation" you are effectly aiming straight at the target, so no lead resulting in missing behind!

 
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