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I guess my prior post presumed too much in the way of common experience

I don't think there is a middle ground to be discovered.  The extremes do not appear to be amenable to any reason.  Responsible citizens should be respected and treated as such.  They are not children and should not be subject to the whim of officialdom or groups blathering along,  ill informed and misguided.  That is my perception of where all of you are now.

All of the gun control issues here are documented in thousands of internet pages.  I really have no  interest in rehashing any of that.  The current status, obviously, is that in the US the situation is less acute than the miserable one in GB.  You have let meager minds run your pols and be your pols longer than we have.  But we'll catch up and then we'll all be screwed together.

Enjoy whatever it is that you have cuz it ain't gonna last forever - here or there

have a day

Charlie

Well said Charlie.

(Most are all asleep over here on the issues but just do not know it..!)

 

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Hi Shaun, I agree, 1000 live rounds would be more than plenty, but the "standard" amount that Scottish police forces want to restrict you to are 50 to buy 100 to posses rimfire and 40 to buy 60 centerfire to posses unless you can prove to them you need more, then they might reconsider, which I think is bonkers. As for the three shot semi, there are some jobs where a 5 shot semi is can be needed, 5 quick shots with no time to reload, I have a mate who fired 7 shots from his 8 shot Benelli to kill 5 cubs and a vixen at a fox den (the lucky bugger) when the terriers flushed them. He's fed up having to justify having an extended mag every 5 years, his local F.L.O. doesn't approve!?!? As for the job of dispatching a wounded animal thats in pain, honestly, what's more humane, me going to the house for a .22 and ending its suffering in a few minutes of phoning a vet, waiting for them to arrive to end it's suffering, to put it into context, my vet is an hours drive from the farm and I am one of the designated marksmen for the vets practice, I.e. they phone me to dispatch large animals involved in road traffic collisions. I take absolutely no pleasure in dispatching wounded livestock, but it is a thing I must do from time to time, I wish I didn't. p.s. I was arguing for sound moderators, not against

Yes Darky well said....I think that might have answered a few of the more 'ignorant' comments. I have to say that I wished I had a .22 for my horse that time....because the wait in Xmas traffic for the vet and knackers was not a pleasant experience for the horse or me. The time was over 2 hours.

 

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I chose to ignore and not respond to the "Ignorant" comments...answering them in the manner they deserve may have been misinterpreted as aggression

 

[Chard]

Here's an ignorant comment. :yell:

This thread puts me in mind of a Pigeon Watch special. Willy-waving. I've got a bigger armoury than you. Gooks in the wire. Lock 'n load. Commando rolls in front of the wardrobe mirror.....

Didn't think I'd get this sh*te on a dedicated clay forum....

Spare us, purlease, we're not all wannabe Rambos <_<

 

[Chard]

 

[Darkside]

Now we all know what Chard does behind closed doors...plays "Urban Taggers" chasing his wife and dog round the house trying to shoot them with his "Super Sucker" gun...

 

[RobertBeard]

Yes Darky well said....I think that might have answered a few of the more 'ignorant' comments. I have to say that I wished I had a .22 for my horse that time....because the wait in Xmas traffic for the vet and knackers was not a pleasant experience for the horse or me. The time was over 2 hours.

Nicola - Humane dispatch is not likely to be achieved with a .22 especially in inexperienced hands.  I believe that a.32 handgun is the minimum calibre for the humane dispatch of wounded deer and humane dispatch pistols are often of a higher calibre than this.  For example offences are committed if certain game animals are shot at with a calibre of gun not sufficient for a good clean kill.

 

[Darkside]

Chard...just be careful you don't break the mirrored wardrobe doing those Commando rolls you were talking about!!!

 

[Darkside]

Nicola - Humane dispatch is not likely to be achieved with a .22 especially in inexperienced hands. I believe that a.32 handgun is the minimum calibre for the humane dispatch of wounded deer and humane dispatch pistols are often of a higher calibre than this. For example offences are committed if certain game animals are shot at with a calibre of gun not sufficient for a good clean kill.

Robert, seriously??? Don't be silly...

 

[Chard]

Chard...just be careful you don't break the mirrored wardrobe doing those Commando rolls you were talking about!!!

7 years bad luck - pah! Doesn't bother me. I'm a hardcore fearless renegade bitchmofo Urban Tagger <_<

 

[Darkside]

It was more the shards in your ass to watch out for...

 

[Chard]

It was more the shards in your ass to watch out for...

Kevlar Y-Fronts. I need 'em for what I'm packing...... :huh:

 

[Les53]

I might like one of those, do they do it with a longer barrel for trap? :lol:

 

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I have got that........!!

I use it on the dogs when training.......it is very accurate......not too heavily choked......and it you lean to the left whilst shooting to the right you can normally get them right in the middle of the ass just under the tail. Perfect pig sticking shot as we say in Madrid.

 

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Nicola - Humane dispatch is not likely to be achieved with a .22 especially in inexperienced hands.  I believe that a.32 handgun is the minimum calibre for the humane dispatch of wounded deer and humane dispatch pistols are often of a higher calibre than this.  For example offences are committed if certain game animals are shot at with a calibre of gun not sufficient for a good clean kill.

I was not thinking of a sniper shot......(wink)

 

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Robert, seriously??? Don't be silly...

I do not think that many people on here have ever seen the 'humane dispatcher' that the knackers use....in action.....!! Always thought it was badly named.
Hopefully edited for typo this time.

 

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i did it wrong

 

[Darkside]

I do not think that people have ever seen the 'humane dispatcher' that the knackers use......!! Always thought it was badly named.

Yes, it doesn't actually kill them, just knocks them out by punching a hole through the skull with a captive bolt, (hence captive bolt gun), it's the "rod" usually a length of plastic pipe they poke through the hole, spin round about to sever the spinal nerves and brain, looks nasty.

p.s. to Shaun, when the vet puts an animal down, their preferred method is lethal injection, most vets don't carry a captive bolt gun, it requires contact with the front of the skull, the dangerous part, the drug of choice happens to be barbiturates, very, very nasty stuff!!! To mask the suffering that barbiturates cause the add some sedative to cause drowsiness, the barbiturates however contaminate all of the meat of the dead animal and the carcass must be incinerated. Eat the meat, you die!!! There was a deer that had been "humanly dispatched" by a vet and left by the roadside unattended awaiting uplift for incineration a couple of years ago, chap comes along, still warm, takes it home to butcher it assuming it had been fatally wounded by a car, as he was butchering the deer he was feeding his dog the bruised meat from the shoulder, the dog fell suddenly ill and died in great pain by the time the vet came, by a stroke of luck, the same vet who had dispatched the deer earlier!!! The vet realised what had happened and the venison was destroyed, imagine what could have happened it that guy had fed his family with that venison and had not given the dog the bruised meat from the carcass?!?!

 

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Yes, it doesn't actually kill them, just knocks them out by punching a hole through the skull with a captive bolt, (hence captive bolt gun), it's the "rod" usually a length of plastic pipe they poke through the hole, spin round about to sever the spinal nerves and brain, looks nasty.

p.s. to Shaun, when the vet puts an animal down, their preferred method is lethal injection, most vets don't carry a captive bolt gun, it requires contact with the front of the skull, the dangerous part, the drug of choice happens to be barbiturates, very, very nasty stuff!!! To mask the suffering that barbiturates cause the add some sedative to cause drowsiness, the barbiturates however contaminate all of the meat of the dead animal and the carcass must be incinerated. Eat the meat, you die!!! There was a deer that had been "humanly dispatched" by a vet and left by the roadside unattended awaiting uplift for incineration a couple of years ago, chap comes along, still warm, takes it home to butcher it assuming it had been fatally wounded by a car, as he was butchering the deer he was feeding his dog the bruised meat from the shoulder, the dog fell suddenly ill and died in great pain by the time the vet came, by a stroke of luck, the same vet who had dispatched the deer earlier!!! The vet realised what had happened and the venison was destroyed, imagine what could have happened it that guy had fed his family with that venison and had not given the dog the bruised meat from the carcass?!?!

 Yeap......it is exactly the spinning round that i was referring to.

 

[sibaldib]

Lethal injections tend to concentrate the mind. When you are holding the head/neck of a 17.2hh horse in a dark muddy field, you tend to be on high alert that the vet's needle doesn't slip!