80 yard pheasants?

[Salopian]

Once again a gameshooting thread deteriorating into a slagging match because people cannot range judge.

If you have done your preparation correctly you will know what type of birds are going to be shown and use an appropriate bore , choke and cartridge.

 I like edible game but dislike watching a Prick, prick birds.

 

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Quite.

Know your limit is a good idea when shooting game.

 

[Paul_B]

There is a way of cutting to the facts which usually cuts the crap, a pellet needs 1.75 foot pounds to penetrate a Pheasant cleanly in order to kill. Id ask anyone to do the math to work out what it means for you.

I usually pick up 50 days a year on days averaging much more than 250 birds and can honestly say that me and my dogs wish guns loaded and shot according to ability and load/ range

 

[MARK-POACHER]

Sorry guys and girls I forgot you lot know everything....I only grew up with a gun in my hand and probably forgot more than you know about game shooting !! But one day when your on a peg and these birds keep falling out the sky..just look over as it might be me!!!!!!!!!

With a 28 bore....night

 

[MARK-POACHER]

There is a way of cutting to the facts which usually cuts the crap, a pellet needs 1.75 foot pounds to penetrate a Pheasant cleanly in order to kill. Id ask anyone to do the math to work out what it means for you.

I usually pick up 50 days a year on days averaging much more than 250 birds and can honestly say that me and my dogs wish guns loaded and shot according to ability and load/ range

I also do over 50 days a year. And think like wise...!

 

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+1

 

[Gnasher]

I have a couple of game days lined up for October. Both places I have never been to before so no idea of how "high" the birds will be. All I know is pheasant and partridge.

So, experts, what cartridges do I take and what chokes do I put in my gun?

 

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P.s. I hate talking game shooting on a clay shooting website. I also never argue with shoot servants .....true story

 

[Paul_B]

P.s. I hate talking game shooting on a clay shooting website. I also never argue with shoot servants .....true story

and I shoot over 30 days, so not just a shoot servant ..

 

[MARK-POACHER]

I have a couple of game days lined up for October. Both places I have never been to before so no idea of how "high" the birds will be. All I know is pheasant and partridge.

So, experts, what cartridges do I take and what chokes do I put in my gun?

Hi.gnasher.

All depends what part of the lovely country side your shooting in..but early season birds are very juvenile and are less likely to get up and go and will be plenty to choose from so aa good 28 gram 6 or 30 gram 6 would do the job in hand imo.

 

[Gnasher]

Kent and Hampshire
Took a punt and already opted for 28G and 6 shot - thought I could use them up on rabbits on clay shoots

Now which choke?

 

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and I shoot over 30 days, so not just a shoot servant ..

Never said you were.

 

[Paul_B]

and I shoot over 30 days, so not just a shoot servant ..

Never said you were.

sorry Nic, it posted without the :lol: bit :lol:

Funnily enough one place I pick up treat you just like that, pisses me off really as it costs me to pick up there ( relatively speaking) and its the beaters, keepers, and pickeruppers that make the soot work. Anyway I digress. No pigeon shooting for me today, I have 2 100 ESPs to shoot if time and a bad neck allow.

 

[no.1topdog]

P.s. I hate talking game shooting on a clay shooting website. I also never argue with shoot servants .....true story

I've been beating and picking up all my life, and until this moment I never realised I was a "Servant"!

I do it because I enjoy it, and the day I stop enjoying it I will stop doing it. I do it for me, nobody else, and I feel privilaged to see parts of the countryside I would never normally have access to.

I meet people from all walks of life, from Kings and Queens, Lords and Ladies to White collar, blue collar and decidedly grubby collar. Some are very nice, some not so nice. Some are Sportsmen and Women, and some not so sporting.

But most of all I do it for the 2 free days of blindingly good shooting I get invited to at the end of the season, when all the flappers, cripples and fat, lazy pheasants have been weeded out by the people who can pay for the privilage.

I guess I may be a servant of sorts, but I feel like a savvy servant, and I enjoy it!  :biggrin:

 

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In your place....!! :laugh:

Downton Abbey tonight .....!!

 

[chippy]

I wonder how many of these 80 yard birds are hit by 1 stray pellet and die a day or two after.

 

[salop sniper]

I have always used 30/32 gram of 6`s (usually GB clear pigeons and fibre wad) Choke wise I use 1/2 & 3/4 not so many real high birds but when we get to the duck drive its nice having that bit more choke (and i switch cartridges)

ATB

Matt

 

[clarkeyk80]

my little 20b is 1/4 3/4 i use 30g pure gold 5s as 28b shot says its the nut behind the butt. put the shot in the right place and bird will fold up. i have shot some high bettws birds with this combination. steve

 

[squimp]

I agree that a heavy load helps -  but you still have to read the bird and put the shot in the right place.

I shoot regularly on a good shoot in mid Wales and a couple of years ago we had half a team of guys from Manchester join us  for a day. After the first drive they all went back to their bling Range Rovers and put away their 32g cartridges and changed to 36 or 42g shells. They hit no more birds on the later drives than they had on the first one -  they just couldnt read the birds.

The guy who runs the shoot sometimes back guns and he regularly pulls down amazing birds. He shoots an old English side by side and 28g 6 shot !!

The bottom line is that if you haven't done it before, it is difficult.

 

[DoubleBarrelledDon]

I use my 28 on days when I know the birds will be average, yes, with a 28 gram load of 5's you can reach out a little but my 12 gauge is the usual weapon of choice running a minimum of 34 gram 5's and up to 42 gram 4's for the silly high stuff, they also allow you to clean up pricked birds a peg or two down the line if required. Sadly an awful lot of people go to high bird shoots just so they can say they have been there rather than sticking to 30-40 yarders that they might be able to hit. Too many people also don't understand that pricking a bird with the first barrel does not entitle them to prick a different bird with the second, and as for “overkilling“ a bird a well known game shot once said to a fellow gun who questioned his choice of 34 gram 4's on a partridge day “I'm in the business of killing them, not eating them!“ Fair point........