AAA class at all reg shoots!

[balltrap]

Not a spot of rain and no wind ................................you lost out again Ian 

 

[Hamster]

The point being a B having a good day and hitting 6 or so more than his comfort average will nudge him into money, AA doing same will still mean he's 2-3 off from the big boys.

And it's much harder to climb those 6 targets in AA than it is elsewhere.

 

[balltrap]

The point being a B having a good day and hitting 6 or so more than his comfort average will nudge him into money, AA doing same will still mean he's 2-3 off from the big boys.

And it's much harder to climb those 6 targets in AA than it is elsewhere.

​Its tough at the top as they say  :angel:

 

[LancsLad]

​LancsLad came to the fish ask him !!!

I did go. Stopped raining just before 11 and sun came out for a bit just before 1pm  . 

 

[Will Hewland]

I had a clanger on my first stand at Hornet today. Nobody on the stand, totally misread the pair and hit 3 ex 10. Hold points wrong and thinking they needed more input than they did. Ridiculous, but human error. But I knew that from that moment the whole shoot was totally gone for me, in terms of mixing it with the others in my class.. In B or C a recovery charge could have netted something worthwhile.

 

[SP Clay]

I am hopefully going up to AA and to be fair a good 90+ score is needed to win A most weeks, yes 95 + is needed to win AA but that's where I will try and get too. I will treat each week as a practise and a good bench mark for how I am shooting then focus hard on the majors to see if I can pick up there.

i left Kegworth today Brett Winstanley had hit 111 and was leading but A was being lead by 107 (well shot that man as the conditions weren't easy with a gusting wind)  so the difference at the top is limited and unfortunately if you want to pick up regular you need to be very good week in week out or avoid Reg. Comps as there are a lot of fine shooters out there in all classes.

I bet the scores next week at the top of the top 3 classes will be covered by under 10 clays which from 120 clays doesn't leave any room for mistakes.

P.s. My last two scores at the end of the last period put my average up enough to probably get me in AA and I am happier going up another class than perhaps not trying my hardest and staying in A - though I may have picked up a couple of hundred quid over the summer from the odd class win.

 

[Will Hewland]

Bear in mind that especially in May and November, the lower classes contain people who are just waiting to move up. Big scores from lower classes are less common in June and December when a sort out has occurred..

 

[balltrap]

Or sandbaggers  :angel:

 

[chippy]

I think the entry fees should be graded by class. So C class shooters pay £25 up to AAA paying £45 that way the prize money will level out. 

I will get my coat.

 

[tiptop]

Good job all the top 3 of the AA shooters were in their higher class at Prescott on Saturday, because if they were in A class they would of won Jack sh*te, all 3 of the top A class shooters shot scores above the AA shooters????

April and October for sandbagging.....just saying!

 

[westley]

It's an old discussion. Bottom line is that shoots are better attended if there is prize money down through the ranks, but yes, especially if you are an average AA (as I am) you pretty much can forget prize money. 7 clays spans each of the lower classes average bands but AA spans 17 clays, 83 to 100. It does sometime feel a bit rough to be an unsuccessful AA and watch somebody take £100 for hitting ten clays fewer than you. It's not like we have a bigger gun in AA. Just a higher branch to fall from. ?

​Switch to Superfasts and go to the top of your class then ! 

 

[westley]

So, if I manage to get to the top of my class, do I get a star,  or just get to give out the pencils ?

 

[ips]

No idea mate I was never top of class spent all my time banished to the back. 

 

[Nick Selby]

Once you get to AA it all stops anyway, never mind AAA. I personally won next to nothing on my way up through B and A because my progress was slow and organic rather than meteoric and the AA payback only really come when the big boys are elsewhere ! 

In my view there's as much wrong with having lower classes than there is in having AAA, as much as I understand the need for separate classes, at the end of the day you're rewarding mediocrity. B class taking home £100 for an 85 score where some dude who has worked all his life and thrown tens of thousands at the game and who can shoot that kind of score with ease goes home with nothing having scored a hard earned 93. 

Did you think this way when you were  C and B class? Are you really that worried about £100 if you have already thrown 'tens of thousands at the game'?..... It seems to me that some people on here appear to have forgotten what it is like to be a newbie/C or B class shot... £100 isn't going to change anybody's life. 

 

[PhilS]

So, if I manage to get to the top of my class, do I get a star,  or just get to give out the pencils ?

And sharpen them too Westley ?

 

[Hamster]

Did you think this way when you were  C and B class? Are you really that worried about £100 if you have already thrown 'tens of thousands at the game'?..... It seems to me that some people on here appear to have forgotten what it is like to be a newbie/C or B class shot... £100 isn't going to change anybody's life. 

​To be honest I don't recall actually thinking as such, you turned up, shot 76 and watched the pot go to AA scores, at the time I was convinced they were sandbaggers but in time came to realise there were other more realistic factors involved. 

Obviously I'm not saying £100 is a life changing sum but it isn't unreasonable to expect a higher return for a higher score, that's all I'm saying; Dubai pay out isn't based on classes.

 

[Will Hewland]

Nick, I agree with you in many ways. The encouragement of newcomers to enjoy C class and B class money is a real plus to the sport. I am presently "bringing on" a mate from straw baler world to reg shoots and watching him progress. He has probably scraped into B class now and has been really boosted by winning a few quid in C. (More the thrill of it than the actual cash). But it is kind of twisted that a shooter who has been at it for many years, but doesn't shoot much, or take it that seriously can be picking up money in C when a dedicated AA person puts in a lot of time and money to no avail. Just an observation. You can never suit everybody. 

 

[Nick Selby]

I might be wrong here but without the numbers of C and B classes attending these shoots, surely many of the shoots would struggle to survive? 

What I find strange about shooting is that people spend ££££s per year on shooting but quibble over what is relatively small amounts of cash. I've played sport all my life and never made any money from it, it has actually cost me a lot to do but only gave up those sports through injury, not because of lack of financial reward. 

I will probably get cut down and struck off for this but I don't reckon there should be any financial reward  for any comps except for the major ones...... 

Might get my coat now....?

 

[tiptop]

The cut-off points are then determined based on the total number of shooters with ‘adjusted’ averages meeting the above criteria. Separating English Sporting for example into the top 5% (AAA), next 10% (AA), next 30% (A), next 30% (B), and last 25% (C).

From CPSA CLASSIFICATION page.

 

[Mike]

I might be wrong here but without the numbers of C and B classes attending these shoots, surely many of the shoots would struggle to survive? 

What I find strange about shooting is that people spend ££££s per year on shooting but quibble over what is relatively small amounts of cash. I've played sport all my life and never made any money from it, it has actually cost me a lot to do but only gave up those sports through injury, not because of lack of financial reward. 

I will probably get cut down and struck off for this but I don't reckon there should be any financial reward  for any comps except for the major ones...... 

Might get my coat now....?

​I totally agree about no financial reward except for a major comp, the lower classes keep a shoot going and survive.

If you want to gamble put £50 each into a pot and the winner takes all.