He is the nicest man you could ever meet, thank you to those who know him. He did used to shoot ALOT before 2003 and he was a character most shooters knew, sadly he did stop due to personal reasons. He now only shoots the classic with a great friend just to come back have a good day and see all the old faces, hi to all of them by the way, we do miss you. He was classified on the day he shot and when he found he was put in B class thought it would cause trouble, thanks Wesley! On Saturday morning he was rung and they moved him to AAA, thanks again Wesley! He probably has only shot 100 clays since the last classic so only goes to prove how brilliant he is, even in driving rain xxx P.S. Sue we will be up for a visit soon
Churchills Classic - June 2012
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sscottsmith1234
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Shot the classic Yesterday for my first shoot in AA class, pretty hard going all day, very few 'givers' making it hard to keep the ball rolling.
Shot the Red course in the morning finishing on a 56 after making a balls up of one stand, and followed up with a 58 in the afternoon on the blue (114).
Feel sorry for the people that had to shoot it in the down pours and wind though!
Great to see some people from this shire there & very well done to Matt Hance!
Shot the Red course in the morning finishing on a 56 after making a balls up of one stand, and followed up with a 58 in the afternoon on the blue (114).
Feel sorry for the people that had to shoot it in the down pours and wind though!
Great to see some people from this shire there & very well done to Matt Hance!
Another thought. Setting a course to the right standard is a real skill. The guys who do it on a regular basis for CPSA registered shoots and usually get it right - ie AAs 85-90, As in the 80's, B's 70's etc - they deserve a lot of respect. It's getting the balance right between mainly hitable targets with a handful of testing ones to sort the AAs from the Cs. I think the Classic had some great testing targets - its what I love about Sporting clays: I can't wait to get to the next stand to see what it will be - but it just had too many of them. It didn't get the balance quite right.
Ultimately my bad score on the red course wasn't about not being able to hit the hard targets. It was because the hard targets left me thinking I couldn't hit anything and once that thought is in your head, you've had it.
Gnasher
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An excellent post me thinks. Which alerted the brigade of shooters which imply the shoot is for the top class shooters. Funny that looking through the results there does seems to be a lot more ordinary shooters.
Not saying for one minute that birds should be easy and boring but most people pay their money and should expect to get near their average.
Also if anybody thinks they will improve by shooting at targets they cant find and hit they are eluding themselves.
On that note I do believe that it is a very hard job for course setters to achive a good balance because of uncontrollabe factors involved, like weather.
Ultimately my bad score on the red course wasn't about not being able to hit the hard targets. It was because the hard targets left me thinking I couldn't hit anything and once that thought is in your head, you've had it.
Gnasher
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An excellent post me thinks. Which alerted the brigade of shooters which imply the shoot is for the top class shooters. Funny that looking through the results there does seems to be a lot more ordinary shooters.
Not saying for one minute that birds should be easy and boring but most people pay their money and should expect to get near their average.
Also if anybody thinks they will improve by shooting at targets they cant find and hit they are eluding themselves.
On that note I do believe that it is a very hard job for course setters to achive a good balance because of uncontrollabe factors involved, like weather.
EdSolomons
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I thought the dificulty was about right. I thought the stands could have been spaced differently (ie less groups of hard stands, rather than 4 in a row).
Personally the gripe I had with it was the targets themselves; largely on the blue course. I felt there was a bit of a glut of orange 1/4inr birds int earth banks, and rather too much going aways in general. There were some good birds on (couple of nice tower birds, decent battue) but just far too much samey 1/4ing stuff.
Red course was a bit more varied but again seemed to be a bit of replication.
I think it detracts from the Classic having it at the same place for 3 years, particularly when half of it is on the ground that the locals shoot week in wek out. As a whole left me very cold.
Organisation was great and everyone very helpfull as always. Super prize fund. But the feel of the shoot has gone and I think the sooner it leaves Churchills the better; I just dont think its the place to have a major.
Personally the gripe I had with it was the targets themselves; largely on the blue course. I felt there was a bit of a glut of orange 1/4inr birds int earth banks, and rather too much going aways in general. There were some good birds on (couple of nice tower birds, decent battue) but just far too much samey 1/4ing stuff.
Red course was a bit more varied but again seemed to be a bit of replication.
I think it detracts from the Classic having it at the same place for 3 years, particularly when half of it is on the ground that the locals shoot week in wek out. As a whole left me very cold.
Organisation was great and everyone very helpfull as always. Super prize fund. But the feel of the shoot has gone and I think the sooner it leaves Churchills the better; I just dont think its the place to have a major.
Sampop
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First Classic that I have missed, since when it was in North Wales, and it was on the basis it was at EJChurchills again - however I did enjoy it the previous 2 times it was held there. Here's hoping that they go back to 'virgin' ground next year!
EdSolomons
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They won't! Locked in for another year there :-(
The simo pair into the darkness,i'm sorry but it's not what i've seen before at a a classic so many people shot 0 only because it was trick shooting.I think Ed would back me up, you got to have shot this typ of stuff before (i shot all six)but not what i would put on.If these targets were on at other grounds they would be called stupid,shooters need to say what thay think not agree all the sheep?.And i did enjoy as much as you could in those conditions felt sorry for churchills two years in a row of bad weather.It's called constructive critas crite creta balls that's what i think
Maxum
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Let's have it back at mold. It was fun shooting in the fog :-((
Sampop
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....it was mad in Mold, some clays literally popped out of the fog for a second! Don't think they'll consider coming back!
Gnasher
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In case you haven't seen this, some TV crew followed George D around while he was shooting the Classic. It was tweeted by Charlie Jacoby @fieldsportstv if you've got twitter. I retweeted it and my twitter name is @Gnasherwell
Its not very long and I enjoyed it as he had the same problem as me - starting on the early stands on the red course. Of course he went on to hit the rest but I think all the ones he dropped were in those first few stands.
I did think the organisation at Churchills was very good. We had only one short delay for a trap malfunction. I also think Ed's comments are spot on (but I rather liked all the orange quartering clays!)
Gnasher
Its not very long and I enjoyed it as he had the same problem as me - starting on the early stands on the red course. Of course he went on to hit the rest but I think all the ones he dropped were in those first few stands.
I did think the organisation at Churchills was very good. We had only one short delay for a trap malfunction. I also think Ed's comments are spot on (but I rather liked all the orange quartering clays!)
Gnasher
ginger gun
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well i no this man and he is a freind of mine all i can say if you cant beat somebody who only picks a gun up once a year and all the shooting the wingers do a year wots the problem just hit more than him, if they only put the effort in to there shooting that they do on this site they would be alot better! the mans a class act simple as that. and i spoke to him after that day he shot and said theres going to be problems with the class he was put in on the day how right he was not his fault just the system, hopefully he will come out to play one day again soon sorry for the winge but its bin bugging me .
Chard
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but surely the simplest solution would be to enter competitions as AAA Class, as I believe that is what class he's in :.:
Just because you opt out of the registered circuit, that doesn't mean your last classification fades away as well. If you were AAA Class last time you shot registered, you'll be AAA until you do something that changes it.
Why he's entered as B Class when the CPSA website gives his class as AAA Class is beyond me, but then I do have a habit of over-simplifying things :huh:
