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jonz

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So what is everyone’s view on the CPSA Awards of the Year? Some of them are in my opinion very well deserved, Clay Shooter of the year couldn’t have gone to a better person also Lady Shooter of the year, but the others seem a little odd to me. Ground of the year didn’t hold a major CPSA event, Course setter of the year didn’t set the course of a major event, and as far as I know the coach of the year hasn’t coached the winner of a major championship. So why didn’t the coaches of the Olympic medal winners get coach of the year and why didn’t the grounds that put on the best championship layouts get ground of the year? It just seems that those with the biggest social media coverage get the awards and not the most deserved… I am probably going to get proved wrong but these are just my thoughts
Jonz
 
Did you nominate any? Did you vote? General apathy with shooters. I do not disagree with what you say though.
 
Did you nominate any? Did you vote? General apathy with shooters. I do not disagree with what you say though.
No I didn’t nominate or vote, I got so disillusioned with the CPSA some years ago that I never renewed my membership.
 
I felt a little sorry for Johnny being given the title of influencer of the year. I don’t think the term “influencer” gives a great image these days. I also think he does a great job of taking reviews, information, tuition and experiences to the public. I’d say he’s significantly more than an influencer.
 
I’d love to hear your opinion on how you’d choose referee of the year 😂

I may not have coached major winners, but if I wasn’t doing an exceptional job across the board then I wouldn’t have got enough votes to win.

Social media has a play, but if I was doing a bad job then it wouldn’t make a difference.
 
So what is everyone’s view on the CPSA Awards of the Year? Some of them are in my opinion very well deserved, Clay Shooter of the year couldn’t have gone to a better person also Lady Shooter of the year, but the others seem a little odd to me. Ground of the year didn’t hold a major CPSA event, Course setter of the year didn’t set the course of a major event, and as far as I know the coach of the year hasn’t coached the winner of a major championship. So why didn’t the coaches of the Olympic medal winners get coach of the year and why didn’t the grounds that put on the best championship layouts get ground of the year? It just seems that those with the biggest social media coverage get the awards and not the most deserved… I am probably going to get proved wrong but these are just my thoughts
Jonz
I’m a Cpsa member and instructor here in sunny Scotland . I tend not to vote as it’s usually all based around England (not that it bothers me as I knew this when I joined and done my instructor course 6/7 years ago) but having said that I certainly don’t mind someone getting nominated for what they do even if I don’t actually know all they do because it obviously takes more than a handful of votes to win anything. As far as mr instructor max winning coach of the year? It doesn’t bother me that he has won and well done him. I don’t think you have to be coaching world champions or regularly making world champions to be deserving or winning it? Surely introducing people to the sport or improving club level shooters to achieve better scores is worth being recognised? As far as I can see by his ground availability it is mostly his job so good on him!! If there were more grounds handy this side of the border I would certainly try make a living from it rather than a part time thing. One thing I will say though whether it’s cpsa or apsi or basc is clay coaching in general is a very cleeky world! People that are fellow coaches can sometimes not like the fact you are coaching incase you take customers from them? That’s something I notice here in Scotland! These grounds don’t like outside coaches coming in to make money so I tend to do all my stuff on peg in winter.
 
Nathan truly deserves his title the rest are pointless and hold no weight at all. A few Facebook pictures but that’s about it
 
I’d love to hear your opinion on how you’d choose referee of the year 😂

I may not have coached major winners, but if I wasn’t doing an exceptional job across the board then I wouldn’t have got enough votes to win.

Social media has a play, but if I was doing a bad job then it wouldn’t make a difference.
Referee of the year, probably one that knows the rules and implements them, i.e stops the cheating ( I hit that clay,that was a no bird etc) stops the coaching in the cage, calls the lost birds etc.. that would be a start
As for your award I never said you were doing a bad job , just that there are others that have coached winners
An award of the year should be for the best of the best not for the most followed on Facebook and instagram etc
But of course these are just my thoughts.
 
Just looked at the results and understand Max won the coach of the year. Well done and from what I have seen well deserved. It was refreshing to see that category filled with ‘younger’ coaches who have enough time and energy to not feel obliged to tick the CPSA box of conformity which can (sometimes) result in a nomination from time served as opposed to how good they are.

My own feeling of the CPSA is that they are too self-focused. It's the same problem that inflicts many such organizations. Too busy thanking and awarding themselves and those who work for the organization than realizing much of what they represent is going on elsewhere. I work in insurance and the same problem exists - awards are not given out because of who deserves it that year but who's turn it is or who the representative body want to side with.

I have a lot of time for TGS and Johnny Carter. It is however a business. It might be ‘influencing’ those around but I prefer to categorize it as promotion of the sport through social media; less about the person as such and more about their impact clay shooting in general.
 

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