do I need to adjust my stock?

[ips]

Yep targets can change from trap to trap ground to grounds minute to minute. One must be able to adapt accordingly.

And some folk think this trap mallarkey is all just same old same old going away easy peazy boring targets

 

[jwpzx9r]

Hotshot

I would not say I miss them too often but they can be the one that I miss when on a run of say 8 or 9 straight hits! One thing I will say I always keep my gun still until I see the target clearly only then do I move to the target. It is a bit confusing for me and all my ramblings must be some what confusing to you, it could simply be a case of miss reading the flight of the clay assuming its straight when in fact it is slightly angled? I am going to a new shooting ground next week so I hope to get a few rounds in and maybe some feedback from the other shooters. I can try either UT or OT what would you suggest? I must say I like the idea of OT but feel a little intimidated by what appears to be a rather difficult discipline for a fairly new clay shooter.. on the other hand got to start some where!

 

[ips]

If france is anything like uk targets at the moment then ot will not be much harder than abt you will possibly find ot easier at first than Ut as the hold point for Ut is a bit more complex than abt or ot but am easier discipline theoretically once you get used to it.

 

[Hotshot100]

If france is anything like uk targets at the moment then ot will not be much harder than abt you will possibly find ot easier at first than Ut as the hold point for Ut is a bit more complex than abt or ot but am easier discipline theoretically once you get used to it.

I would second that. I think it's shot the same as ABT except for using 24 gram cartridges. Over to you Ian.

 

[ips]

Correct my friend but if its practice use 28g

 

[Jan Powell]

Be careful! It's impossible for anyone to give you specific advice relating to your shooting technique without seeing you shoot. With the best of intentions you could easily end up being sent up a blind alley.

Seek out a trap coach who will be able to watch you shoot then make precise alterations to your technique.

 

[Les53]

 I must say I like the idea of OT but feel a little intimidated by what appears to be a rather difficult discipline for a fairly new clay shooter.. on the other hand got to start some where!

You are right to feel intimidated mate! It is one bitch of a discipline, unless everything is just right you are in trouble! As an example, I have been shooting OT now for about 13 or 14 years, last Saturday I tried out my new MK38 which has an adjustable stock, something I've never had before. So I set the stock to what I though was correct and off I went to Southern Counties. Well it's the first time  ever shot a 13 at OT in my life, something was wrong and I knew it!!!! So when I got home I decided to check out the difference between my old 3800 and the new gun. I had indeed set the comb at the correct height, however I never thought to check how long the stock was!!!!!! Yes the MK38 adjustable stock has a length of pull of 375mm, the fixed stock is 365mm, as is my 3800. So I now know why I could not get comfortable with it. Had I been shooting DTL or ABT I may have got away with it, but NOT with OT, everything MUST be perfect, down to slightest detail, otherwise everything can and will go wrong. All the guns I've ever used for OT have had the exact same dimension and I can feel when it's right, if I cannot get it to feel exactly right, well I might as well stay at home. So that is the sort of thing that OT can do to you, any small flaw in gun fit, gun mount or technique will destroy you as far as OT is concerned!

 

[ips]

Be careful! It's impossible for anyone to give you specific advice relating to your shooting technique without seeing you shoot. With the best of intentions you could easily end up being sent up a blind alley.

Seek out a trap coach who will be able to watch you shoot then make precise alterations to your technique.

Correct which is why I made of point of stating "could" and stressing the point when I replied with possibilities that may help.

The OP has said previously that he cannot find an English speaking coach and therefore asked for input on the forum.

But I accept your statement which is very true.

 

[jwpzx9r]

Correct which is why I made of point of stating "could" and stressing the point when I replied with possibilities that may help.

The OP has said previously that he cannot find an English speaking coach and therefore asked for input on the forum.

But I accept your statement which is very true.

I accept any suggestions that I think are relevant to my case. I appreciate the help being offered here, which I know is given with the best of intentions. I am new to ball trap its my first full year and like anybody I want to make good scores but I am not daft I know it is not as easy as some people make it look. I am doing some thing very right because I have shot and powdered say 10 straight before my miss/ misses. What irks me is the miss is usually a target that looks to be favourable for me, this could be me being complacent and just swinging the barrels up and expecting to see clay powder only to miss. I thought it was gun mount related it may not be I may be just miss reading the clay. it will come ,I hope, with more practice and a dedicated approach to my shooting. What I am really trying to avoid is getting psyched out too much that would just be counter productive. I have been given some good advice and I am going to work mainly on gun mount and stance to start with this should give me a good start, then I will take it from there. I will then be reporting back for more help

thanks

 

[ips]

Your very welcome I hope some points were of use. You sound intelligent enough to throw away anything that isn't relevant and at least give some thought to one or two things that may be of help.

As a final thought ............ anything with a 2 at the beginning is a good ABT score on a good day you throw in a couple of 22s and a couple of 23s and you are up there with a very good score, so to be doing 17s 18s 19s already then it is unlikely that there is anything fundamentally wrong with what you are doing. My final advice is this, shoot as often as you are able, don't over analise or you will change so much in one go you will not have a clue what you are doing, find a style that (a) seems to work for you and ( b ) feels natural and stick with it, minor tweaks to it are ok but you must as soon as possible be able to do all your pre shot routine and gun mount without much thought. Finally, concentrate on absolutely nothing else but seeing the front edge of the target.

TERMS AND CONDITIONS

The above of course is just my opinion and there is no substitute for an English speaking fully qualified ABT coach .

Edited due to poor spellin and insertion of smiley thing

 

[Les53]

The above of course is just my opinion and there is no substitute for an English speaking fully qualified ABT coach .

Ha!!! There aren't even many of those in England Ian, I reckon it's easier to find an OT coach than a ball trap coach these days.