Fiocchi

[40UP]

40UP,

 Did any of them impress you enough to endorse them?

Even the most expensive cost less than a retail clay.

They were all excellent quality cartridges, Salopian, but are the most expensive any better? Only if you believe they are and I was hoping I could dismiss the extravagant. If I was entering a selection shoot would I spend £40 more on cartridges if they gave me better results? Certainly. What people should do is test and test without dismissing out of hand. I would be happy to use Blacks in 24gm everyday at £45 a slab.

40up

 

[Darkside]

Tom's watching - I'd really like to try those Black Eagles tom. Next time Beswick orders..

Black Eagles are special...I've seen some incredible second barrel breaks at long edge on FITASC targets with them, CRUSHED!!!

 

[Darkside]

I use them on everything over 40yds now, I've had some stunning long kills on clays and pigeons/crows too!!

 

[newbie]

i've done plenty of testing with FBlu, Black and now Golden trap. Headlines for me are:

FBlu are hard hitting, tight patterns and smoother than Blacks.

Blacks are very tight and bumpier than Blu

GT are v hard hitting, and much smoother than Blu or Black. Kills are pretty damn good too.

I also think chokes dont make a difference to these cartridges as got some v tight patterns at 32yds with 0.04 thou.

conclusion: it goes bang, looks pretty, suits financial criteria then use it. 

 

[Will Hewland]

Like I said, Fblu have a heavy centre. The outer bit is not good..

 

[ips]

Yes and the black are equally tight i find. Very good but unforgiving. They would be fantastic if they could just open the pattern a bit.

 

[40UP]

In Days of Thunder, Robert Duvall convinces Tom Cruise that his car is fitted with "special tyres" and that he can just "drive on by". Magic Beans you say? Interesting..

 

[ips]

Did you get your stock Mr T ?

 

[40UP]

Did you get your stock Mr T ?

Yes, I was glad to see it again and the rest of the old girl. Waterproofed inside and pitched up with buffalo horn. "They all look like that sir". Jo has a colour of many coats now. Still wants me to furniture wax it next.

Got a while you wait barrel service as well. May not be half and three-quarters anymore. Has got polished vertical bars on either end though. The Isis pad we agreed on looks suspiciously like the hard rubber butt I handed it in with and as the wife says my quarter inch is different than other peoples.

That's going to be it for this year, see you at Marys before lunchtime.

 

[ips]

Ha, jolly good.

I am off to sealand cya soon.

 

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Like I said, Fblu have a heavy centre. The outer bit is not good..

Just shows folks how different people read the effect of when you go 'bang'.

The Black is the one with the more expensive progressive powder and that gives it less recoil than the Blu' faster burning powder. This is 'fact' and proved in the test labs.

Yet out in the daylight people all feel different things, because emotions and 'head' comes into play.

@ips ......we like the pattern tight.......it makes sure that if you train properly, you are not a lucky chipper. (With the pattern opened up I would not get my luck second barrel chip in as it is disappearing over the horizon......come on...!!)

 

[ips]

@ips ......we like the pattern tight.......it makes sure that if you train properly, you are not a lucky chipper. (With the pattern opened up I would not get my luck second barrel chip in as it is disappearing over the horizon......come on...!!)

point taken

 

[Hamster]

I'm not sure I agree with that Nicola, how can recoil be scientifically proven one way or the other - all things being equal? You keep referring to progressive powder as if that in itself reduces recoil but I have always felt fast and snappy recoil easier to tolerate. I have shot both Black and Blue and felt, like most others seem to have done, that Blacks were a tad harsher, so much for science then. 

In the 80's there used to be a lot of Sellior & Bellots around and they had a very slow shove/push kind of recoil and most people commented on this and weren't keen on them.

 

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I'm not sure I agree with that Nicola, how can recoil be scientifically proven one way or the other - all things being equal? You keep referring to progressive powder as if that in itself reduces recoil but I have always felt fast and snappy recoil easier to tolerate. I have shot both Black and Blue and felt, like most others seem to have done, that Blacks were a tad harsher, so much for science then.

In the 80's there used to be a lot of Sellior & Bellots around and they had a very slow shove/push kind of recoil and most people commented on this and weren't keen on them.

Speak to Fiocchi then. They test them with not only labs but Olympians.....But.....what you say is very interesting....I am sure you are right :smile:

 

[webber]

Speak to Fiocchi then. They test them with not only labs but Olympians.....

But.....what you say is very interesting....I am sure you are right :smile:

But he shot Fiocchi; he failed to feel the difference; how can he be right?

webber

 

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I do not know Webber :smile:

I have put it in my note pad of 'things I do not care about'.

:smile:

 

[Clanchief]

Speak to Fiocchi then. They test them with not only labs but Olympians.....

But.....what you say is very interesting....I am sure you are right :smile:

I do not know Webber :smile:

I have put it in my note pad of 'things I do not care about'.

:smile:

Are the labs Trained gun dogs or just pets that would make all the difference.

Noting something in your book would infer you do care enough to make a note about it.

Just saying.

 

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Are the labs Trained gun dogs or just pets that would make all the difference.

Noting something in your book would infer you do care enough to make a note about it.

Just saying.

Very helpful Scotty thank you.

As for the note book....that was the polite one

 

[scotty38]

Very helpful Scotty thank you.

What did I do? :sarcastic:

 

[Chard]

I just wasted 10 minutes of my life reading that load of advertising blather....... :getlost: