ips and Les53...now I'm now being nasty, unfriendly, or anything else, but...what have posts #11 #12 #13 #14 got to do with FITASC? You pair have a nack of draging every post off topic talking a load of pish like a pair of old women (sorry old women) Any chance you two could swap phone no's so as the rest of us don't have to read drivel about pie's, motor home's, crap jokes or any other "Jack and Victor" patter...just saying!!!