Flobert

[40UP]

The lad asked if he could use the 9mm to go ratting so I got the bits out. It's a No3 bore Webley and Scott garden gun, the 9mm shot shells are known as Flobert at least the paper case ones are. Usable in buildings and orchards without blowing the roof off. A pig to clean compared to a 12bore.

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About one quarter ounce, 7.5gm

 

[ips]

Have heard of these things are they bigger or smaller than a 410

 

[40UP]

Smaller, a fourten 2.5" cartridge is normally half ounce, 14gm. So half that.

 

[no.1topdog]

Mr 40up Sir, I am beginning to have issues with your posts.   :fie:

Each time you post a picture or information about something from you obviously extensive collection of, quite frankly, fascinating items, I am developing huge pangs of jealousy.

This time, not only is it a fairly rare 9mm Webley (having only previously seen imported examples by Norica and Anschutz) it is also in immaculate condition, just like you took it out of the box.

For one person to have all this stuff is just not fair. Good job you live so far away or I would be pestering you daily to have a look through your beautiful collection.

Please don't let this stop you posting this type of stuff. I know I have to get over this, and the problem is entirely my own.

P.S. Happy Christmas Fred.   :biggrin:  

 

[ips]

Wow flipin small then

TD

I been asking to see Mr 40up SO EELL but not forth coming as yet.

 

[no.1topdog]

Wow flipin small then

TD

I been asking to see Mr 40up SO5EELL but not forth coming as yet.

He's probably trying to decide which one to lend you?

Try an SO10. I was swinging one around in my local shop a couple of weeks ago. Strangely they wouldn't let me take it to my local 50 birder on the Sunday morning either. No idea why??? Pretty gun though!!

P.S. If you want small shotgun ammo, ask him to show you some "gallery gun" cartridges (he's bound to have some). One for mice indoors perhaps???  :biggrin:

 

[40UP]

Normal stuff to Hamster these I would think. One fifteenth of an ounce [2gm] alongside a .410 and 9mm

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[Paul120]

Normal stuff to Hamster these I would think. One fifteenth of an ounce [2gm] alongside a .410

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Was that the sort of stuff that trick shooters used in pistols and rifles for shooting flipped coins etc?

 

[no.1topdog]

Was that the sort of stuff that trick shooters used in pistols and rifles for shooting flipped coins etc?

Not really. Those .22's would be used at fun fair type shoots (shooting galleries) at the knock down type target at 10 feet away.

The trick shooting shows would have used shot loaded cartridges in the popular calibres of the day (.36, .38, .44 or .45) Not a great deal more shot load but enough to make an impact out to 10 yards or so for the fancy stuff.

Of course there were some trick shooters in the old days who could do that with the standard load single bullet. Some still do it today that way. Fascinating to watch but frustrating (and expensive) to learn.

Edit. Check out Bob Munden on youtube. Sadly departed now, but probably the best ever.

 

[40UP]

The .410 not being a bore is believed to have developed from the .44 shotshell.