Guns designed especially for Women

[jwpzx9r]

Guns for women will never catch on down here I have only ever seen two women shooting down here, and one of those two is English. I don't know why but it would appear that they stay away for some reason. I have seen many women at shooting grounds when comps are on. They are either watching there hubbies shoot or making the tea and sandwiches and raising funds for the club. That is not being sexist by the way they genuinely tend to take a supporting role in the running of the clubs and their input is really welcomed by all the members.

 

[Macc Ladd]

Guns for women will never catch on down here I have only ever seen two women shooting down here, and one of those two is English. I don't know why but it would appear that they stay away for some reason. I have seen many women at shooting grounds when comps are on. They are either watching there hubbies shoot or making the tea and sandwiches and raising funds for the club. That is not being sexist by the way they genuinely tend to take a supporting role in the running of the clubs and their input is really welcomed by all the members.

. Next time I bump into Cheryl I will ask her for a round of ham salad

 

[Guerini Guy]

I don't really understand the need for anybody to knock this idea coming from CG.

When I consider the amount of money I have lost in purchasing different guns for my wife, none of which she could even attempt to properly test because most guns tend to come with 14 1/2 to 14 3/4 inch length of pull, whereas her length of pull requirement is 13 inches. Every gun has had to have money spent on it to have it fitted, and then of course we have also then lost money on the resale.

Of course, within the female market there will still be considerable variations in requirement, but this CG incentive could at least give many female shooters a greater alternative choice at the gun shop.

I know I am biased, being a very proud CG owner, but what really is the point of anybody being negative about them offering an item more specifically aimed at the female market ???

 

[Gnasher]

Andy Harvison did a project for Perazzi a few years ago to try to design a ladies stock. It came to nothing in the end - I suspect they found the market too small?
I ended up with one of his prototypes - shorter stock, Monte Carlo, bit of cast, smaller grip. Before I got it, nobody seemed to have a clue about how to fit a gun to me. I've shot very well with it...
However, my stepson also shoots well with it

 

[Macc Ladd]

I don't really understand the need for anybody to knock this idea coming from CG.

When I consider the amount of money I have lost in purchasing different guns for my wife, none of which she could even attempt to properly test because most guns tend to come with 14 1/2 to 14 3/4 inch length of pull, whereas her length of pull requirement is 13 inches. Every gun has had to have money spent on it to have it fitted, and then of course we have also then lost money on the resale.

Of course, within the female market there will still be considerable variations in requirement, but this CG incentive could at least give many female shooters a greater alternative choice at the gun shop.

I know I am biased, being a very proud CG owner, but what really is the point of anybody being negative about them offering an item more specifically aimed at the female market ???

that's one sale then!!

 

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Women are no different to the men. There are big fat women and there are little short thin men and there are all the combinations in between. It is simply down to gun fit....you either have it right or you dont.......whether you are a man or a woman.

I hate all this 'fairer sex' stuff.......it is pafteek ..... and makes me want to throw up.....just saying.

Please stop putting us in a box that we neither need or want......just give good gun fit.....simples.

 

[RobertBeard]

So don't charge women to adjust the stock to fit in terms of length of pull etc

 

[Santa2512]

Sounds like a good idea, 

As with most mass prodduced items, they are based round the 97 percentile formula,

Which means that the item will suit 97% of the persons using it ..

Mass production car manufacturers in particular adopt this format.

If i recall, its  based on an average  person 5'8" high, weighing about 14 stone.

Which if you fit that percentile is great,  if your outside that percentile, then it can be a problem.

For me being on the short side, i miss the 97% every time.

I cannot drive a Mk1 rover 216, as the seat does not come far enough forward for me to reach the pedals,   (I kid you not) !!! 

Mens shoes,  start at size 7   I'm a 5.5  but wear a 6,  and kids shoes dont go wide enough 

I have a 17" neck,  so the 97% says with a neck of that size, i will have a 42" chest and be about 6'6" tall, 

I'm actually 5'5"  so you can guess what a shirt with those dimensions looks like on me

As you may recall, i knew i needed a specific Barrel / comb set up when i bought my first gun, ,

Who says it will be "lady" specific,  to me if it fits  the 3% it could be a winner

Mart

 

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Well said Mart.

So guys with shapes out side of the 97% a Girly gun could be right up your street.

Wonder what the 97% shape envisaged for this gun was......?

Was it a slight petite girly or a big bruser ?

 

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Again what type of women are you referring to?

We are not a one size fits all.

For instance (and purely on the physical aspect) would you compete using 36grms if you could?

Would you shoot practice 4 times a week 200 birds plus?

Would you climb up and down hills to compete over several days?

I really am not sure exactly what picture some men have in their mind about shooting women.

However this is only my feeling of mild irritation ...as a woman.....of this perception that we are somewhat inferior or need special guns etc etc....we are not..we don't....we are just fewer.

And like all shooters, we benefit from good gun fit.

Evocomp is not expensive for the tool it is....true story. :wink:

Off to ping some more 36grms....enjoy your day people.

 

[Finners]

Emma

spot on and that is exactly my point women do not have a monopoly on having different sizes. So were exactly is this specific women's gun market ?

Totally agree with the first sentence. As for the second part.......... it might help if we take the male/female issue out of this for the time being, as that is clouding the point I was trying to make.

So, in my opinion, first off CG are to be applauded for trying to encourage wider inclusion in the sport. But, I also think that they will be missing a trick if they just try to sell the product and not the idea. 

It's pretty clear that we on this forum don't need the "idea" of shooting being sold to us. But, in this respect we don't represent the wider public do we? 

What I was talking about is those people, who currently don't shoot and perhaps would respond positively to the "idea" of shooting if it were to be set before them in a way that made it more appealing to them. That's marketing, and the market itself consists of those people who might be interested in listening and giving it a go. 

So, back in the room....... It would appear we are all agreed that the product referred to in the OP is not likely to appeal to many on here. But that may be as much to do with our knowledge of the alternatives. We have also experienced the failure of previous attempts to sell a targeted product in isolation. But as I said earlier we are not the "market" are we? 

So I conclude, that it's not just the product that needs to be promoted, it's the idea that shooting can be fun that needs to be promoted....... to everyone.

 

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It is not that it does not appeal to people on here....it is just that the reality does not exist.

There is no one size fits all 'ladies' gun......because lady shooters....just like men....come in all shapes and sizes.

All shooters should buy a gun that fits or can be made to fit depending on the shooters requirement whether male, female, junior, young, old, beginner or expert.

In my humble opinion.

 

[ehb102]

It is not that it does not appeal to people on here....it is just that the reality does not exist.

There is no one size fits all 'ladies' gun......because lady shooters....just like men....come in all shapes and sizes.

All shooters should buy a gun that fits or can be made to fit depending on the shooters requirement whether male, female, junior, young, old, beginner or expert.

In my humble opinion.

Well, there's no one size fits all men's gun either. A gun marketed at ladies may mean that it's possible to try something closer to what you actually need before buying it so the leap of faith isn't so huge.

 

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Well, there's no one size fits all men's gun either. A gun marketed at ladies may mean that it's possible to try something closer to what you actually need before buying it so the leap of faith isn't so huge.

Yes I pointed that out in my posts.

Men come in all shapes and sizes too.

The most important thing ....is that a gun fits....I am not that bothered with what it is marketed as if I am honest.

To call a gun a ladies gun might dramatically cut the choice down for many newcomers to the sport......they may miss for instance ones like I shoot. The Perazzi MX8L with lighter barrels.

If you happen to be a newcommer to the sport then get good advice from a good coach, a good fair gun shop and have a good fitting by someone who knows what they are doing. This is the best thing for any shooter male or female (of any age).

But.....best of luck to C&G for their effort.....I hope they sell enough to keep it going......whatever it is in the end.

 

[Finners]

It is not that it does not appeal to people on here....it is just that the reality does not exist.

There is no one size fits all 'ladies' gun......because lady shooters....just like men....come in all shapes and sizes.

All shooters should buy a gun that fits or can be made to fit depending on the shooters requirement whether male, female, junior, young, old, beginner or expert.

In my humble opinion.

We are agreed on the point "one size does does not fit all" and that "Men, like Women come in different sizes" I have said this at least three time now.

Can we pleeeeze try to get past that now?

My point is not about that. 

 

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Yes we are all agreed .

Marketing would possibly help when a one size fits all gun is developed.

I would be delighted to try it out when it becomes available. I am a sucker for marketing and nice packaging ....honest.

 

[ips]

With respect the op title is guns made especially for women in the opening post reference is made to the fact that cg are going to alter stock dimensions and weight etc specifically for women. So as most of us are of the opinion that this is nonsence for the reasons that we have eluded to ie we are all different regardless of gender then I fale to see what your or anyone elses point actually is. Not meaning to sound argumentative you understand but even our own lady shooters have bern unable to state categorically what a female specific gun would entail.

 

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I would like one that hits things please :wink:

 

[ips]

Ah well now thats not gender specific either what you need is a "good" one, thats all, aparently the ultimate never miss gun can be found at the end of a rainbow, I for one have given up looking though

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Yes we are all agreed .

Marketing would possibly help when a one size fits all gun is developed.

I would be delighted to try it out when it becomes available. I am a sucker for marketing and nice packaging ....honest.

Well goodness me Nicola you are so in luck as I have for sale a Miroku mk38 that will fit perfect (in your  cabinet) said to be the best gun known to man or Woman (if your normal size :spiteful:  ) and strong enough to drive a gun like a man!! special price today only £1700 but reply within ten mins and the price will be reduced to   " Wait for it" £1700 yes £1700 and that includes in the price a fancy package comprising of not one but  two pink ribbons. rankster: