Guns designed especially for Women

[Shaun Hopkins]

Ah well now thats not gender specific either what you need is a "good" one, thats all, aparently the ultimate never miss gun can be found at the end of a rainbow, I for one have given up looking though

Then look no more Ian other then the post above! :nyam:

 

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Well goodness me Nicola you are so in luck as I have for sale a Miroku mk38 that will fit perfect (in your  cabinet) said to be the best gun known to man or Woman (if your normal size :spiteful:  ) and strong enough to drive a gun like a man!! special price today only £1700 but reply within ten mins and the price will be reduced to   " Wait for it" £1700 yes £1700 and that includes in the price a fancy package comprising of not one but  two pink ribbons. rankster:

Great price....but I already have a couple. Thank you very much though.

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Great price....but I already have a couple. Thank you very much though.

Last chance £1699 and one ribbon!

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Think your looking nearer £2000 Ian for an evo comp and there is an argument to suggest fair value compared to constant gun swapping as many of us do,

the issue about women vs men as far as strength is concerned needs no explaining but its not as if a shotgun weighs 100kgs and is well within a females capabilities to hold and shoot as my wife does with ease and she is quite petite

I feel the fatigue factor may be an issue for women or men new to shooting  at least until your used to holding a shotgun but after a few months most will get used to the weight but can I just add Nicola is far from butch in any way shape or form but just used to shooting after many years practice.

 

[Shaun Hopkins]

Its a lot of money indeed Ian but I guess you can make this sport as cheap or expensive as your budget allows from what I can gather the stocks come with standard grips in different sizes if that makes sense i.e small, med, large or you can travel to Germany and for an extra fee have it custom fitted to ones self which would cause resale problems but with such a big outlay one would assume its a keeper,

I agree that shooters new to the sport would use a considerable amount of gun movement but as your skill level improves movement would also reduce a conciderable amount

 

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Is it not the case that more men participate in sports, generally. Therefore statistically men will be generally better at certain ones. ?

 

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My point exactly, you are reading into everything just to suit your self.  Evo comp not expensive!!!! What are you on? 90% of shooters out there would consider £3000 for a stock bloody expensive! Yes i would shoot 36g shells if i could, i have fired a lot today and next friday i could easily shoot 500+ of them. I stated that women do not have the physical strength of men and i stand by that comment. You may be as butch as hell Nicola (just the picture you are painting) but you would not be as physically strong as many men (not proper men anyway :girlcrazy: ) True story as you say!

Oh do try to be accurate. Evocomp is £1750.

I am not butch so please don't name call.

36 grms is not a choice it is a necessity in certain disciplines.

Physical strength is determined by which women you put against which men....and that does not mean that they have to be butch.

Quantity of shells referred to is what a lot of men and women shoot normally, in fact Pete Wilson exceeded that quantity mentioned.

Not sure why you want to be combative all the time. But it would help if you were accurate.

I post my opinion only ....but it is factual.

 

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The "Butch" comment was not meant to sound bad, it was just a picture she was painting to me. I think you are right to a point Shaun but i do feel there are certain presentations that require strength and speed that some women struggle with (obviously not every woman as Cheryl has proven). £2000 is still a hell of a lot of money for a stock whichever way you want to look at it (yes i would like one myself but there is no way i could afford one). The resale on one would be pretty poor i would imagine as the grip is made for your hand so its very unlikely it would fit the next owner so they then have to have a new grip made. £2000 would buy a gun and pay for all necessary fitting and still leave a few quid for shells etc.

Again i am sorry but this is inaccurate. If it would help, please let me explain. The majority of Evocomp stocks are standard sizes S,M,L,EXL. and will fit those hands.

The ones that are specially made for your particular hand (like mine) would not find their way onto any resale market.....because the people who have had them specifically made....love them

I am sorry but Butch is very insulting to a happily married woman. I have never been interested in other women.

There is no extra strength or speed in shooting sports that is beyond a normal woman in competition.

I am not sure how much shooting you have done or where you get your information from......but as a woman and as the owner of a specially made Evocomp...and as a woman who shoots everything.....can I politely say that I disagree with your posts.

But I hope you enjoy the shooting that you do.

 

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Right that is the last time i ever post on here Nicola you win. To be honest i never thought it was possible to really dislike anyone i had not even met...until you came along! Please feel free to ban me Matt for this as it will force me to not have to come on here and put up with this womans constant self importance.

I am sorry you feel this way. I am simply correcting your information on evocomps, and the butch comment.I am also reading catch up from iPhone so I am behind on various posts.

Would you prefer to believe inaccurate information....if so...I am sorry that I have tried to help.

P.s. I do not have any self importance....I am just a shooter who does not really fit into the category of what you feel a female shooter is. So again sorry. Am I meant to just keep quiet and not offer a female opinion.

 

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Cor I am relieved that I am bulky rather than butch.

So is my husband.

I have not looked to find any fault with your post. But you were totally wrong in your assertions about the Evocomp after I mentioned it in my post.

I notice that you have not had the same reaction to Shaun who told you the same thing (although at that point I had not got to his post when I made mine...or I would not have bothered posting....I was trying to help).

Sorry you have a problem with me and my bulk. I have been trying to lose weight since Christmas but nothing seems to work. it must be my age now.

I was just trying to help you with accurate info about something that I own and you are not very clear on.

 

[RobertBeard]

I agree there are more Men in sport but i still believe Men will generally excell. Take the ladies PGA tour, it has a fair following but they can't hold a candle to the mens tour. I really don't think it comes down to just numbers.

This is not a fair comparison as men and women are not equal when it comes to golf.  Women don't have the same following because their game is not so exciting as they can't hit the ball so far and therefore cannot take the same risks!  Same with tennis etc.  Shooting is one sport where they could be equal but there is a huge difference in the numbers competing and therefore fewer women reach to top to challenge the men.                      

 

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Look.....I am not responsible for your words...

First you call me butch...then you say you meant bulky....

Either way I am not really interested.

I simply replied to your inaccurate posts.

I prefer not to have to reply anymore to your comments .....so I am off to bed.

Competition early tomorrow ......hope you enjoy your day too.

Night night.

 

[RobertBeard]

I'll give you Darts but you can't believe that women and men are equals at running and cycling?

 

[jwpzx9r]

See these evo comp stocks are they really the mutts nuts?  I have never seen one used in trap shooting here, but I have not been shooting trap that long, nor on any videos of top trap shooting. I personally don't like the look of them but that is a personal thing because if they really are that good then the price seems to be a good one because whether we like it or not the human body is a state of constant flux regarding dimension so a well fitted stock could be usless within literally months... whereas this evo whatyamacallit would just need a slight tweek to get you back on the perfect fit again. Just a thought

 

[jwpzx9r]

Well Robert if you look back through this thread apparently some women are physically equal to men. Maybe the odd one thats injecting 2ml of testosterone a week but as for the others i don't see it, i am not being sexist in any way but this is life.

now you are referring to the Eastern European female athletes of the 70's and early to mid 80's the one who needed to shave twice a day

 

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Well Robert if you look back through this thread apparently some women are physically equal to men. Maybe the odd one thats injecting 2ml of testosterone a week but as for the others i don't see it, i am not being sexist in any way but this is life.

I really do not want to have to reply and I do so with trepidation.....but as someone on here who has said that women in shooting can be equal to men if they are in similar numbers.....I have to clarify my position in the above post....
As an international shot subjected to drugs testing in my sport.....I must say that neither myself or any of the other women that I shoot with, or look up to , or who regularly beat the men.....inject anything to enhance our performance.

I am not saying that I think that the poster was referring specifically to me as such....but the comment was not cear at all....and as this site is international ...including many Fitasc members from overseas....I HAVE to qualify and clarify...my...own position for the record.

 

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I do not see any reason why women would be disadvantaged in shooting. Fare to say that generally women are not as strong but there are also many slightly built men and indeed young males who seem to do ok. I do not think that strength is a pre cursor to good shooting. We have quite a few trap shooters who mix it at top level with men, most of us cannot get anywhere near there scores. nattras was competing at world cup level in the 70s when there wasn't even a choice as i believe there was no female class then. I brought my daughter up to consider herself equal to men in all aspects of life, i would hate to think that the civilised world still had a dickensian view on such matters. My daughter is an accomplished horse rider and competes and usually wins against men, this is just one of many sports that men and women are equal, as is shooting.

Just my opinion.

 

[SIMON-B]

Surely this can only be a good thing that CG are doing, marketing our sport towards women and hopefully increasing the numbers that shoot would bring benifits to us all. It would have been pretty cool if i could have said my mum was a " clay pigeon shooter ". The more ladies that shoot would change the demographic and by association shooting would become seen as the norm. ( only an opinion, dont all shout at once ) :judge:

 

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Yes but if only we knew what ground breaking gun design they were going to do for these odd shaped creatures called women that has not already been addressed by adj this and shortened that. This is the question.

 

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Surely this can only be a good thing that CG are doing, marketing our sport towards women and hopefully increasing the numbers that shoot would bring benifits to us all. It would have been pretty cool if i could have said my mum was a " clay pigeon shooter ". The more ladies that shoot would change the demographic and by association shooting would become seen as the norm. ( only an opinion, dont all shout at once ) :judge:

Yes I totally agree it is a fantastic idea and I would love to know what shape and size of woman they are aiming for.