OK so shot four practice rounds yesterday and was a bit disappointed at the end. I started with a really good 24 and then a 23 on the first fosse then a bit later on went over to the other and shot an 18!!! Did not know what was wrong was missing high right lefts. Shot another and made a 20 but with about 10 targets left to shoot a coach ( female blonde!... old ) who was watching another shooter quite animatedly let me know I was lifting my head. I took the advise kept my head down and shot the rest first barrel so missed 5 from the first 15 all high right left but one straight away. Anyways the major thing for me is I know I was lifting my head but I don't know why and she did not tell me... or I did not understand exactly what she was saying. So question is there any obvious reason why a right handed shooter would lift their head to high r/l targets ? Its weird it only happened with high r/l targets I know its difficult without having seen the shooter. All I can really do is try and concentrate more on this problem.
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Beechin
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I do this from time to time I got told it's because the barrels block the veiw of the clay on a r/l so you lift your head slightly to try and find it.
Right that could be the problem I may just have been holding my gun a little it higher. The main thing is if I make a conscious effort not to do it I don't ! I have always had a head lifting problem in my short time of shooting and it would appear I have not yet learned how to fully put it to rest, which is a pity because it is wrecking my scores. My last two outings have produced 19,23,25 and 20 and 24,23,18 and 20 so the conclusion I draw is I either start badly and realise I am doing it and stop for a couple of good scores then start again when over relaxed or start well then relax and let it slip again losing concentration. But then again is that just what trap shooting is all about ironing out the bad rounds!
Wonko the Sane
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In a move to the right you are left arming the gun and pulling it away from your face - just like lifting the head. Drive the gun with your trigger hand and your knees and you'll rotate your body instead of pushing with the left hand.
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Hi Charlie. No problems with the right handed targets its the high left that are the problem and defo head lifting once told I corrected and bingo blasted the last ten so a combo of concentration and possible gun hold or eye focus . It is really destroying my scores though and will have to sort it out because 47ex50 followed by 38ex50 is such a shame.
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just a thought but could stance be the cause ?
are you running out or tightening up during left rotation try squaring up a bit.
my best guess however is that you are in effect leaving the gun behind because you are looking for the target because you saw it late, this could be incorrect focus and or hold point or beechins original theory of barrell obscuring target exit point.
are you running out or tightening up during left rotation try squaring up a bit.
my best guess however is that you are in effect leaving the gun behind because you are looking for the target because you saw it late, this could be incorrect focus and or hold point or beechins original theory of barrell obscuring target exit point.
Many good bits of advice there from all many thanks. I think it must be something very fundamental and definitely not feet because I am very fastidious about foot position at every post so the first thing I do is position my feet and do it as soon as I step into the new post, and because by simply being told that I was doing it I could correct it very easily by just not doing it?? Seeing the target late could be a reason I may just have been looking a little too high for the target but as I said the coach simply indicated what I was doing and I stopped doing it... I think with the high targets I lift my head to admire the presentation 
. Something to work on next time out I will start by simply reminding myself not to do that!
. Something to work on next time out I will start by simply reminding myself not to do that!
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ehb102
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You could be looking with your nose, not with your eyes. That's what it's called in my lessons. It's natural to point your nose where you are looking, you have to learn to move your eyes and not your face.
Well its going to be a couple of weeks before I shoot again as this weekend its Barcelona for the moto gp but give ehb102 a coconut I think that is what is happening because as soon as I was told I was doing it I stopped doing it.
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this is true. I relax my left hand grip so that the right hand takes over, also helps to avoid tension in the shoulders.
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A lot of people suffer from head lifting,trouble is you do not know you are doing it, it takes someone watching you to point it out , being to keen to hit the target will make you lift your head you need to be a robot and do the same thing every time keep your head down and move your body not your head
That is so true I was not aware of doing it but as soon as I was told I corrected the fault and hammered the last ten targets, however I did not know why I was doing it. I don't think I changed anything other make than the conscious effort to keep my head on the stock and did not miss another target. The targets I was missing were high left I think I was lifting my head rather than just moving my eyes to see the target... just as ehb102 suggests?A lot of people suffer from head lifting,trouble is you do not know you are doing it, it takes someone watching you to point it out , being to keen to hit the target will make you lift your head you need to be a robot and do the same thing every time keep your head down and move your body not your head
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I point my left foot to where I intend to kill the clay, stops me over stretching, and going over the top, might help if you don't do this already.
Trap is a bit different in that you don't know where you will break the target because you don't know what the target will be. The feet are positioned so that there is optimal swing to both extremes of angle.
