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Perazzi use Fiocchi cartridges to test their guns.
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Is this stock a normal sporting stock?
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Perfect...something cheap and thumpy, if they can shoot well with Fiocchi and survive the recoil, then they will excelle with good cartridges!!!
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Fiocchi .....The choice of Olympians.......they are........truly great cartridges......fact..!!
Not sure why there has been sustained Fiocchi bashing recently on here by some small minority....when in fact several shootclay members have all said how they have liked several of their shells when they have tried them.
So to newbies reading this....please do not be put off by words of wisdom on this forum from some..... .recoil is something that is personal to the shooter themselves.....lots of shooters do not feel recoil from shells when others feel lots......so the answer is always try the cartridges for yourselves.
Fiocchi is a proven choice of Champions on the international circuits of ISSF and FITASC........that cannot be argued with because it is fact.
I have shot them for donkey's years and I am just a mere female......and cannot say I have ever noticed recoil on the 28 or 24 grms.......but then I came from 36grms....
But if a girly can shoot them.....I am sure men can....!!
L. O. L.
When all the bluff and bluster has been read......it all comes down to you and your pocket......so shoot what you like and what you can afford.....
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Not sure why there has been sustained Fiocchi bashing recently on here by some small minority....when in fact several shootclay members have all said how they have liked several of their shells when they have tried them.
So to newbies reading this....please do not be put off by words of wisdom on this forum from some.....
.recoil is something that is personal to the shooter themselves.....lots of shooters do not feel recoil from shells when others feel lots......so the answer is always try the cartridges for yourselves.Fiocchi is a proven choice of Champions on the international circuits of ISSF and FITASC........that cannot be argued with because it is fact.
I have shot them for donkey's years and I am just a mere female......and cannot say I have ever noticed recoil on the 28 or 24 grms.......but then I came from 36grms....
But if a girly can shoot them.....I am sure men can....!!
L. O. L.
When all the bluff and bluster has been read......it all comes down to you and your pocket......so shoot what you like and what you can afford.....
Simples
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P.s. Darky I am on iPad matey so here is a word smilie for you (smile plus wink plus tongue stuck out followed by laugh and kiss).
This is my friends old gun and the stock he got when we went to Italy and had ours made. He promptly sold it when he returned as the stock was not right for him at all? We are still wondering why they fitted it like this for a supposed sporting gun.
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Hahaha Salop....play nice.....I think the top Italian FITASC sporting shots might have an answer to that (laughs)........and before anyone say who??? try starting with Michael and Ven Spada, Marco Battisti, Giuseppe Cal and Enrico De Tomas.Because they haven't got a clue !
Remember all Italian targets come out of a trench or a shed.
Proper targets are in the woods.
I shot with Enrico De Tomasi at the European FITASC Sporting in Portugal last year - great shooter - super quick, very economical and a fantastic shot to watch and learn from. He shot two straight 25's on the final day... and I think finished 13th overall. Lovely fella.
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Emmsy
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yes it was bought new - luckily at a time when they were a bit cheaper!
it was an MX8 31.5" sporting, probably built on a friday about an hour before shop shuts
i shot pretty well with it so cannot fault that, but the reason i never replaced it with another was because of all the issues i had, vs the cost of another.
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For a one year old Perazzi I would say that that is a disgrace. Surely it should have been returned and sorted by the manufacturer FOC under guarantee.yes it was bought new - luckily at a time when they were a bit cheaper!
it was an MX8 31.5" sporting, probably built on a friday about an hour before shop shuts
i shot pretty well with it so cannot fault that, but the reason i never replaced it with another was because of all the issues i had, vs the cost of another.
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Emmsy
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i had it for 10 years and i shot about 40k thru it, when i enquired about the guarentee i was told it was only 1 year.
not sure where you got the one year old bit from.....
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Emmsy
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nope sold it privately, then i think he sold it on as he couldnt shoot that well with it, but it may well have anded up at mid wales. whats the serial number?
RobertBeard
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I did not read Salopian's post carefully enough. Even so its still very bad for a gun that commands such a high price and one would assume that quality was part of the deal.
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Why do people on here at the moment seem to want to group bang top products?
All types of guns can have problems.....and no one on here knows how they have been treated during the life of the gun. (laugh heartily out loud).
The number of Perazzis in the Olympics and on the podium speak for itself.
And before anyone jumps on me for daring to make a comment in defence of a brand......I have to say that i have had excellent working cheap Perazzis, Brownings, Mirokus, Kemen and Gambas that have all had plenty of shells through them without problems.
I feel sorry for anyone who has had a duffer or gone abroad to have a stock made and not got what they wanted. .........But lots of other people have had great experiences.
True story...!
All types of guns can have problems.....and no one on here knows how they have been treated during the life of the gun. (laugh heartily out loud).
The number of Perazzis in the Olympics and on the podium speak for itself.
And before anyone jumps on me for daring to make a comment in defence of a brand......I have to say that i have had excellent working cheap Perazzis, Brownings, Mirokus, Kemen and Gambas that have all had plenty of shells through them without problems.
I feel sorry for anyone who has had a duffer or gone abroad to have a stock made and not got what they wanted. .........But lots of other people have had great experiences.
True story...!
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Nicola
I'm sorry but the more you pay for something the more you get fed up when it lets you down.
The Perazzi is like a Ferrari to my Alfa Romeo, Beretta or more quality orientated a Bentley to a BMW.
However you are right in that this gun might have had an unserviced life for example.
I'm sorry but the more you pay for something the more you get fed up when it lets you down.
The Perazzi is like a Ferrari to my Alfa Romeo, Beretta or more quality orientated a Bentley to a BMW.
However you are right in that this gun might have had an unserviced life for example.
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Have you had Perazzi troubles Rob. What sort have you had?
Jimbob
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Completely agree Robert.
We have a lower tolerance to issues with items we pay more for or spend a long time saving for.
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In defence of Perazzi and other makes, the product is only as good as design criteria and craftsman's skill will allow.
A hand made custom stock (which is what this topic actually is about) is subject to the stance, posture and grip of the person it is being made for.
The stocker can only observe these points and measure and carve wood accordingly, at the end of the day, the customer will accept the finished stock as fit for purpose and fit for them. The stocker may well be relatively inexperienced, you are not to know that at the time, and everyone needs to start their career somewhere.
I have actually had three very bad guns, a Blaser which was backed up by dreadful customer care, a Perazzi with a custom made stock, which must have been made during my quasimodo era, how I got it that wrong I will never understand??? Computers, flashing lights, lack of Italian and osteoporosis is my excuse.
Finally my wonderful new all bells and whistles, Beretta DT10, everyone should buy one of these, why should I have suffered alone, not even the rag & bone man would have taken that away.
Do you know why Beretta make such good guns now?
Because they practiced making mistakes on my DT10.
A hand made custom stock (which is what this topic actually is about) is subject to the stance, posture and grip of the person it is being made for.
The stocker can only observe these points and measure and carve wood accordingly, at the end of the day, the customer will accept the finished stock as fit for purpose and fit for them. The stocker may well be relatively inexperienced, you are not to know that at the time, and everyone needs to start their career somewhere.
I have actually had three very bad guns, a Blaser which was backed up by dreadful customer care, a Perazzi with a custom made stock, which must have been made during my quasimodo era, how I got it that wrong I will never understand??? Computers, flashing lights, lack of Italian and osteoporosis is my excuse.
Finally my wonderful new all bells and whistles, Beretta DT10, everyone should buy one of these, why should I have suffered alone, not even the rag & bone man would have taken that away.
Do you know why Beretta make such good guns now?
Because they practiced making mistakes on my DT10.
