AW13
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Not again. Awful news breaking as I type.
2 sons in London, they are clear of the area, thank god.
2 sons in London, they are clear of the area, thank god.
weak Politian's for the last 60 years not controlling immigration .
Got Tony Bliar and Alastair Campbell to thank for that.... Deeply flawed individuals.Maybe if we hadn't kept bombing the crap out of Iraq without justification, Sadam's special forces wouldn't have been rejected by what was left of a government in Iraq and they wouldn't have formed the backbone of Daesh. Daesh wouldn't then be waging a religious war on the west and using social media to indoctrinate young and stupid British born men and women to go on rampages like the one last night. The 'bomb the lot of them' attitude is why we are where we are now.
Compounded by Cameron's handling of Libya.Got Tony Bliar and Alastair Campbell to thank for that.... Deeply flawed individuals.
it didn't help but the real problems go back to Bliar and Campbell.Compounded by Cameron's handling of Libya.
The problems go all the way back to Asquith and Lloyd- George, with the Sykes-Picot Agreement and Balfour Declaration. Just there wasn't the ability to create the same sort of response in the UK in those days.it didn't help but the real problems go back to Bliar and Campbell.
I'm still putting most of the blame on Bliar for the current problems we are experiencing.The problems go all the way back to Asquith and Lloyd- George, with the Sykes-Picot Agreement and Balfour Declaration. Just there wasn't the ability to create the same sort of response in the UK in those days.
They were Liberal's. Making sh*te decisions in the Middle East is something that politicians of all hues (red, blue and yellow) seem to be good at.
Thats Corbyns answer,its our fault. There is no excuse for killing women and children.Maybe if we hadn't kept bombing the crap out of Iraq without justification, Sadam's special forces wouldn't have been rejected by what was left of a government in Iraq and they wouldn't have formed the backbone of Daesh. Daesh wouldn't then be waging a religious war on the west and using social media to indoctrinate young and stupid British born men and women to go on rampages like the one last night. The 'bomb the lot of them' attitude is why we are where we are now.
I know the area where the attack was well, I worked round the corner from Borough Market for a number of years. On a warm evening like yesterday there would have been a lot of people standing outside the pubs around the market. It would have been even worse if it had been a Friday night, that area is always heaving with people out after work.
I dislike Corbyn immensely but I agree that Bliar stirred up a very nasty hornet's nest in 2003. Of course, it doesn't excuse murdering men, women and children in this country though.Thats Corbyns answer,its our fault. There is no excuse for killing women and children.
Both Westminster Bridge and Manchester Arena were carried out by people born in Britain. There is nowhere to send them back to. There is no answer as easy as that. As most of the funding for Daesh comes from Saudi and out wonderful Government keeps flogging them weapons, things aren't going to change in the near future.We have opened this country up to all sorts with different religions and cultures,they come here with no interest of absorbing ours and we help them to do it.
They cause problems on all sorts of levels and many get treated better than we do relatively because nobody wants to offend them and they have special needs.
Time for this to stop,if you have a problem with something in this country that offends or upsets you then you feel free to leave.
Just put them on a plane back to where they came from as it is obviously better than here.
If they dislike the idea of returning to there own country or culture drop them of half way....literally!
I just hope those that made the decision to use their firearms now get the backing that they deserve and NOT a Witch hunt to see if they behaved in a correct manner.The emergency services have done an amazing job, especially the armed police response, the control needed in a situation such as this must be unbelievable.
Yet again a few radicalised nut jobs have attacked innocent civilians under the guise of religion. A simple solution would be to ban religion in this country with free flights to the people who wish to leave. Religion has no place in an educated civilised society other than to shelter or justify terrorists and to provide a safe haven for paedos
isnt ISIS self funding having stolen oil to sell to Turkey and robbed banks?
Most people seem to think they did a great job. Corbyn is trying to act tough now but he has long been someone who opposes a 'shoot to kill' policy yet seems to have done a u turn on that one today....I just hope those that made the decision to use their firearms now get the backing that they deserve and NOT a Witch hunt to see if they behaved in a correct manner.
If that happens I'm leaving.......Earth.Most people seem to think they did a great job. Corbyn is trying to act tough now but he has long been someone who opposes a 'shoot to kill' policy yet seems to have done a u turn on that one today....
Waking up to a potential Corbyn/Farron/Sturgeon government on Friday fills me with dread.
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