Old Perazzi's
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I had a Granditalia when Noah was a lad, full choke top, multi bottom. It was a good piece, lowish tapered rib for a Tarp gun, and a lovely trigger. Shot my best scores with it I think, maybe I should have stuck with it - who knows.
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To be honest the cost of new or second hand shoguns in France is high full stop! Actually the cost of nearly anything second hand is high ... don't ask me why it could be because the French are a little less driven to have to buy something brand new it leads to a quite buoyant second hand market. The two guns I saw in the links would sell for much more in France I would say.
Wonko the Sane
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Obviously our concepts of "old" differ substantially. I would avoid a pre-74 gun since a number of changes were made then. Not that the older ones are bad - just slightly different. For me, the gun you show pix of would be "as new", but then I'm easy hahaha
There are seemingly a couple way vocal people about the so-called rib problem. In the US the real numbers may approach double digits with thousands of guns sold. Personally, I've never met anyone who has had the problem. I have the feeling that the rib problem falls in the same category as the trigger falling out problem since I've never seen that happen either. But what with the mental acuity of some shooters I can certainly appreciate that triggers could fall out and ribs could blow off.
Perazzi has been making +/-3500 guns per year for 40 years or so. And how many ribs have come loose?
Since 1991 I've broken one hammer spring and one firing pin. Both in guns over 25 yrs old at the time. My total maintenance/repair costs over the same time period for around a dozen different guns is probably pushing $400 and most of that is in one gun that was suffering some distress when I obtained it.
So you may pay more for a Perazzi. If you take care of your guns as well as I do, it will cost you nothing to keep them.
just saying ..................
Charlie
There are seemingly a couple way vocal people about the so-called rib problem. In the US the real numbers may approach double digits with thousands of guns sold. Personally, I've never met anyone who has had the problem. I have the feeling that the rib problem falls in the same category as the trigger falling out problem since I've never seen that happen either. But what with the mental acuity of some shooters I can certainly appreciate that triggers could fall out and ribs could blow off.
Perazzi has been making +/-3500 guns per year for 40 years or so. And how many ribs have come loose?
Since 1991 I've broken one hammer spring and one firing pin. Both in guns over 25 yrs old at the time. My total maintenance/repair costs over the same time period for around a dozen different guns is probably pushing $400 and most of that is in one gun that was suffering some distress when I obtained it.
So you may pay more for a Perazzi. If you take care of your guns as well as I do, it will cost you nothing to keep them.
just saying ..................
Charlie
Well I decided to take a punt on that one and will collect it next week. The gun looks very nice I hope it fits me! I have agreed with the owner that if it does not fit then the sale won't go ahead cannot be bothered getting the stock sorted out. I need to buy a trigger kit for it ... not that I expect the gun to fail but if a spring does go better to have the spare part to hand.
shootinguru
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I bet you will mess your pants when you find out the price of a trigger assembly?
I've got one for sale if you are interested although I suspect he meant the replacement spring kit rather than a full trigger assembly.
DT
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Wonko the Sane
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I have no idea what things cost over there, but repair kits are available here for +/-$150. There is a gentleman in Italy I've gotten some things from and I'll try to find his email.
Used trigger assemblies can be had here for $500 and up depending on version.
Nothing that seems to break the bank to me.
Charlie
Used trigger assemblies can be had here for $500 and up depending on version.
Nothing that seems to break the bank to me.
Charlie
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not being funny but I would have thought every serious perazzi shooter would have/want a complete spare trigger unit they are after all renowned for springs breaking and you dont want to be messing about mid comp.
Again serious question, not wanting to start a bun fight 
Are these guns really guilty of breaking their V springs as a regular occurrence or is this yet another shooting myth? I do fully understand that a broken spring means the gun is non functioning but how often does this really happen?
I would say the problem of the V spring is that if it breaks its terminal whereas a coil spring will still work, possible less effectively but it will work, any way I am not about to loose sleep shot for shot for me this year at least the chances of a spring breaking in a competition are stacked well against at about 20/1
Are these guns really guilty of breaking their V springs as a regular occurrence or is this yet another shooting myth? I do fully understand that a broken spring means the gun is non functioning but how often does this really happen?I would say the problem of the V spring is that if it breaks its terminal whereas a coil spring will still work, possible less effectively but it will work, any way I am not about to loose sleep shot for shot for me this year at least the chances of a spring breaking in a competition are stacked well against at about 20/1
Well its the nature of the v spring it will work at 100% and then it breaks whereas a coil spring loses its efficiency very gradually every time it is compressed, and requires greater effort to compress, but does not break. Again though how many P gun shooters have had recurrent spring problems? Any spring of that type can break it is the way they are made but they are more efficient than a coil spring so that is probably why P still use them. Problem is that even changing the springs every day does not mean it will not break so preventative changing of the springs is no guarantee that they will not break. A bit like changing the cam belt at regular intervals on modern car engines ... it makes you feel secure but the new belt could actually break the next day you just cannot say.
You know what would for me at least help gauge the extent of the problem is to get a hold of one of those guys who we are told put 100 +k shells through their P gun every year in training and ask them how often the break
Never seen one in all my time spent trap shooting (and lots of Perazzi's being used). I don't doubt that they do happen but when you consider how many guns Perazzi have made over the years it's hardly a surprise. If you want beautiful crisp, uniform trigger pulls (when they are not breaking all the time!) then it's a price worth paying. If you are really paranoid change the springs once a year.
I suspect most Perazzi owners have never experienced a broken spring.
DT
I suspect most Perazzi owners have never experienced a broken spring.
DT
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Once in 28 years only for me.
Only my view It's not a big issue. Iv had a perazzi and shoot with people with them iv changed them and for others on shoots. Simple job done in minutes at most ,suppose over the years seen thousands shells shot and I can count on one hand how many springs have been changed .sure others would have different experiences with them ,but when I first had one I thought of a spare trigger group but spent bit of time changing springs just incase they broke I'm one of the least mechanically minded people you will Meet and it's a simple job even for me
I think I would say have a spring change kit on hand just in case! For me personally I am more likely to break something in practice than in a comp based purely on shots fired in practice vs competitive shots I may make.
